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<blockquote data-quote="Rushbolt" data-source="post: 9513996" data-attributes="member: 7037578"><p>I have been watching several video reviews of the 2024 Ranger and I haven't found any that make the class look even decent when compared to the other martials and half-casters. Perhaps the most revealing video I watched was by a creator named DnD Unoptimized where he breaks down the 6 martial classes not only on damage capability but also mobility, durability, mental resistance, and control capability. While no system is perfect and he only focused on one build, the issues with the class started to become obvious. The Ranger is classically billed as the class that good at everything but not great at any one thing. The result of the numbers in this test indicated the Ranger was only middle of the road at damage and possibly mobility but was terrible at everything else. It lacked control, durability, and mental resistance to the point where it was last or second to last on all of them.</p><p></p><p>Maybe it was just the build he used, but this is exactly how I feel about the Ranger. It feels like a pushover that doesn't get a strong amount of defensive capability in exchange for being only average offensively. I will be selecting feats, spells, and subclasses for my Ranger builds that address those weaknesses to make the class more well-rounded. This explains to me why Wizards expressly did an article on DnD Beyond about the 12 best Ranger feats. They were basically giving suggestions on how to fix the holes that they left in the class. It's not ideal that the Ranger doesn't actually address the issues in the base features because this means I will need to plan and spend my precious few optional features on repairing a busted class. This is exactly why I do not think the class was designed well.</p><p></p><p>Maybe I am just seeing some bad apples ruining the whole bunch. If anyone finds any breakdown videos or articles showing that the Ranger is actually a pretty good martial class please let me know. If I am just being duped with biased reviews that are twisting the Ranger into looking worse than it is I would be happy to change my mind.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rushbolt, post: 9513996, member: 7037578"] I have been watching several video reviews of the 2024 Ranger and I haven't found any that make the class look even decent when compared to the other martials and half-casters. Perhaps the most revealing video I watched was by a creator named DnD Unoptimized where he breaks down the 6 martial classes not only on damage capability but also mobility, durability, mental resistance, and control capability. While no system is perfect and he only focused on one build, the issues with the class started to become obvious. The Ranger is classically billed as the class that good at everything but not great at any one thing. The result of the numbers in this test indicated the Ranger was only middle of the road at damage and possibly mobility but was terrible at everything else. It lacked control, durability, and mental resistance to the point where it was last or second to last on all of them. Maybe it was just the build he used, but this is exactly how I feel about the Ranger. It feels like a pushover that doesn't get a strong amount of defensive capability in exchange for being only average offensively. I will be selecting feats, spells, and subclasses for my Ranger builds that address those weaknesses to make the class more well-rounded. This explains to me why Wizards expressly did an article on DnD Beyond about the 12 best Ranger feats. They were basically giving suggestions on how to fix the holes that they left in the class. It's not ideal that the Ranger doesn't actually address the issues in the base features because this means I will need to plan and spend my precious few optional features on repairing a busted class. This is exactly why I do not think the class was designed well. Maybe I am just seeing some bad apples ruining the whole bunch. If anyone finds any breakdown videos or articles showing that the Ranger is actually a pretty good martial class please let me know. If I am just being duped with biased reviews that are twisting the Ranger into looking worse than it is I would be happy to change my mind. [/QUOTE]
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