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<blockquote data-quote="Rushbolt" data-source="post: 9516408" data-attributes="member: 7037578">Being at home any environment with limited resources requires incredible mental fortitude.&nbsp; The Ranger should absolutely be a martial with a high ability to resist mind-controlling spells.&nbsp; They should be at the top with the Monk.&nbsp; This would indicate proficiency in WIS saves initially, not DEX.&nbsp; This also fixes one glaring issue in consistency because right now the Ranger is the only spellcaster not proficient in the saves that match it's spellcasting ability modifier. This is step one in fixing the class, but backwards compatibility probably shot this idea down if the designers considered it during playesting.&nbsp; We're stuck with this mistake because it was made ten years ago.&nbsp; Just flip WIS saves to class creation and provide DEX saves early in tier two when the Paladin gets to boost all it's saves.&nbsp; You have the Gloom Stalker ability Iron Mind just do INT or CHA since the Ranger already has WIS saves.&nbsp; I didn't break the class there at all as I changed very little.&nbsp; But it sure plays differently now.Oh, and I don't like the Monk saving throw setup either.&nbsp; I understand that DEX and WIS at level one would be unbalancing, but I absolutely think the Ranger and Monk should lead off with WIS saves and gain DEX saves as part of their class features early in tier two as the Paladin basically gets to boost all their saves at level six.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rushbolt, post: 9516408, member: 7037578"] Being at home any environment with limited resources requires incredible mental fortitude. The Ranger should absolutely be a martial with a high ability to resist mind-controlling spells. They should be at the top with the Monk. This would indicate proficiency in WIS saves initially, not DEX. This also fixes one glaring issue in consistency because right now the Ranger is the only spellcaster not proficient in the saves that match it's spellcasting ability modifier. This is step one in fixing the class, but backwards compatibility probably shot this idea down if the designers considered it during playesting. We're stuck with this mistake because it was made ten years ago. Just flip WIS saves to class creation and provide DEX saves early in tier two when the Paladin gets to boost all it's saves. You have the Gloom Stalker ability Iron Mind just do INT or CHA since the Ranger already has WIS saves. I didn't break the class there at all as I changed very little. But it sure plays differently now. Oh, and I don't like the Monk saving throw setup either. I understand that DEX and WIS at level one would be unbalancing, but I absolutely think the Ranger and Monk should lead off with WIS saves and gain DEX saves as part of their class features early in tier two as the Paladin basically gets to boost all their saves at level six. [/QUOTE]

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