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<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 2329950" data-attributes="member: 3929"><p>You are using a Maciejowsky illustration to argue a rules dispute?</p><p></p><p>...This is absolutely baffling...</p><p></p><p>A rules discussion... You show a picture.</p><p></p><p>The point this picture makes is to show your disassociation from the Rules As Written. It was better when you were arguing the FAQ... at least that has some good clarificatoins in it, even if it fumbles as often as not. I don't know what to say except that your picture, which is very nice by the way, does not change the fact that in 3.5 a spear and a lance are two different weapons that have two different sets of abilities; a spear cannot be used one-handed mounted while a lance can, despite mideval artistry.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It does not go back to improvising. You are not given an improvisation penalty... you are given a non-proficiency penalty. They just happen to be the same penalty, -4. The abilities of specific classes may change one penalty but not the other, so the distinction does matter.</p><p></p><p>You do not improvise with weapons, you are proficient or not with them.</p><p></p><p>You improvise with things that are <strong>not</strong> weapons.</p><p></p><p>The upshot being, you cannot <em>improvise</em> something into a lance. You cannot improvise a longspear into a lance. You can improvise the use of a long pointy stick that is not a spear, but you will still be wielding it two-handed while mounted.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Felix, post: 2329950, member: 3929"] You are using a Maciejowsky illustration to argue a rules dispute? ...This is absolutely baffling... A rules discussion... You show a picture. The point this picture makes is to show your disassociation from the Rules As Written. It was better when you were arguing the FAQ... at least that has some good clarificatoins in it, even if it fumbles as often as not. I don't know what to say except that your picture, which is very nice by the way, does not change the fact that in 3.5 a spear and a lance are two different weapons that have two different sets of abilities; a spear cannot be used one-handed mounted while a lance can, despite mideval artistry. It does not go back to improvising. You are not given an improvisation penalty... you are given a non-proficiency penalty. They just happen to be the same penalty, -4. The abilities of specific classes may change one penalty but not the other, so the distinction does matter. You do not improvise with weapons, you are proficient or not with them. You improvise with things that are [b]not[/b] weapons. The upshot being, you cannot [i]improvise[/i] something into a lance. You cannot improvise a longspear into a lance. You can improvise the use of a long pointy stick that is not a spear, but you will still be wielding it two-handed while mounted. [/QUOTE]
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