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The Larger Failure of "Tyranny of Dragons"
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<blockquote data-quote="pukunui" data-source="post: 7873937" data-attributes="member: 54629"><p>Firstly, it's <em><strong>Hoard </strong>of the Dragon Queen</em>. Hoard = a big pile of treasure. Horde = a big pile of monsters.</p><p></p><p>Secondly, if you think <em>Hoard</em> is railroady, then you haven't tried <em>Dragon Heist </em>yet. <em>Hoard </em>is linear, yes, but it is nowhere near as bad as <em>Dragon Heist</em>. The latter forces the players to chase after a macguffin that they're not supposed to be able to get early, and, if they somehow do manage to get it early, the macguffin itself forces them to get rid of it and forget they ever had it until the appointed time. <em>That</em> is railroading of the worst kind.</p><p></p><p><em>Hoard </em>also has a fairly consistent feel and tone, whereas <em>Dragon Heist </em>is all over the place. <em>Hoard </em>is about tracking cultists who are gathering treasure in an effort to summon the god of evil dragons! <em>Dragon Heist </em>can't make up its mind whether it wants to be a sandbox or a railroad, a police procedural or a tavern simulator, an action movie or a comedy. It's an absolute hot mess.</p><p></p><p>I've run the full Tyranny of Dragons campaign once, and I would happily do so again. I was unable to finish <em>Dragon Heist </em>and will now only use it for spare parts (and the otherwise excellent gazetteer of Waterdeep).</p><p></p><p>That is only some of what I think.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pukunui, post: 7873937, member: 54629"] Firstly, it's [I][B]Hoard [/B]of the Dragon Queen[/I]. Hoard = a big pile of treasure. Horde = a big pile of monsters. Secondly, if you think [I]Hoard[/I] is railroady, then you haven't tried [I]Dragon Heist [/I]yet. [I]Hoard [/I]is linear, yes, but it is nowhere near as bad as [I]Dragon Heist[/I]. The latter forces the players to chase after a macguffin that they're not supposed to be able to get early, and, if they somehow do manage to get it early, the macguffin itself forces them to get rid of it and forget they ever had it until the appointed time. [I]That[/I] is railroading of the worst kind. [I]Hoard [/I]also has a fairly consistent feel and tone, whereas [I]Dragon Heist [/I]is all over the place. [I]Hoard [/I]is about tracking cultists who are gathering treasure in an effort to summon the god of evil dragons! [I]Dragon Heist [/I]can't make up its mind whether it wants to be a sandbox or a railroad, a police procedural or a tavern simulator, an action movie or a comedy. It's an absolute hot mess. I've run the full Tyranny of Dragons campaign once, and I would happily do so again. I was unable to finish [I]Dragon Heist [/I]and will now only use it for spare parts (and the otherwise excellent gazetteer of Waterdeep). That is only some of what I think. [/QUOTE]
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