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<blockquote data-quote="Dungeonosophy" data-source="post: 7995259" data-attributes="member: 6688049">Nah, that's not what I'm looking for. The Essentials Kit isn't a complete RPG, and it obviously isn't a testing ground for a new RPG design space. WotC has already released 'baby's first RPG' stuff (the standalone <a href="https://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/MS_HeroesHesiod.pdf" target="_blank">Monster Slayers RPG</a> and the recent <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Wizards-Spells-Adventurers-Dungeons-Dragons/dp/1984856464?ref_=s9_apbd_ps_hd_bw_b4DX&amp;pf_rd_r=ND8PW2QB39PBCKCQ6TV0&amp;pf_rd_p=e9e47edc-667a-5076-849d-a0f3f46cae49&amp;pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-10&amp;pf_rd_t=BROWSE&amp;pf_rd_i=16215" target="_blank">Young Adventurers Guides</a>, which tie into 5E).What I'm looking for is a complete, adult D&amp;D-branded RPG in one smallish book. Like The Black Hack, or Knave, or Tiny Dungeons. But which is set within (and ideally, recapitulates) the D&amp;D Multiverse. A game which is 'aesthetically D&amp;D', but is actually a different RPG system than 5E. I -- and apparently many, many other RPG customers -- just aren't into the gigantic, complex array of bits and bobbles which is known as 5E.It's great that many people are into 5E. Without sales figures in front of us, neither of us has more than anecdotal evidence as to whether introducing a different, standalone D&amp;D-branded RPG alongside the flagship 5E would be fruitful foray for a Hasbro-sized company or not. And yet, there is obviously some sort of customer base for something vastly streamlined, otherwise all these minimalist RPGs wouldn't exist.Furthermore, over the years, Mike Mearls has floated some personal opinions along these lines. For example: His righteous rant about how the complexity of D&amp;D turns off many potential players, who aren't gearheads. And his view that D&amp;D advancement should be streamlined to the extent that characters level up at the end of every session. (Which is how the minimalist RPGs usually do it.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dungeonosophy, post: 7995259, member: 6688049"] Nah, that's not what I'm looking for. The Essentials Kit isn't a complete RPG, and it obviously isn't a testing ground for a new RPG design space. WotC has already released 'baby's first RPG' stuff (the standalone [URL='https://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/MS_HeroesHesiod.pdf']Monster Slayers RPG[/URL] and the recent [URL='https://www.amazon.com/Wizards-Spells-Adventurers-Dungeons-Dragons/dp/1984856464?ref_=s9_apbd_ps_hd_bw_b4DX&pf_rd_r=ND8PW2QB39PBCKCQ6TV0&pf_rd_p=e9e47edc-667a-5076-849d-a0f3f46cae49&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-10&pf_rd_t=BROWSE&pf_rd_i=16215']Young Adventurers Guides[/URL], which tie into 5E). What I'm looking for is a complete, adult D&D-branded RPG in one smallish book. Like The Black Hack, or Knave, or Tiny Dungeons. But which is set within (and ideally, recapitulates) the D&D Multiverse. A game which is 'aesthetically D&D', but is actually a different RPG system than 5E. I -- and apparently many, many other RPG customers -- just aren't into the gigantic, complex array of bits and bobbles which is known as 5E. It's great that many people are into 5E. Without sales figures in front of us, neither of us has more than anecdotal evidence as to whether introducing a different, standalone D&D-branded RPG alongside the flagship 5E would be fruitful foray for a Hasbro-sized company or not. And yet, there is obviously some sort of customer base for something vastly streamlined, otherwise all these minimalist RPGs wouldn't exist. Furthermore, over the years, Mike Mearls has floated some personal opinions along these lines. For example: His righteous rant about how the complexity of D&D turns off many potential players, who aren't gearheads. And his view that D&D advancement should be streamlined to the extent that characters level up at the end of every session. (Which is how the minimalist RPGs usually do it.) [/QUOTE]

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