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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 8963440" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>In the game you literally find an audio recording from the doctor where he states he's ready to synthesize a cure.</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>April 28th. <a href="https://thelastofus.fandom.com/wiki/Marlene" target="_blank">Marlene</a> was right. The <a href="https://thelastofus.fandom.com/wiki/Ellie" target="_blank">girl</a>'s infection is like nothing I've ever seen. The cause of her immunity is uncertain. As we've seen in all past cases, the antigenic titers of the patient's <a href="https://thelastofus.fandom.com/wiki/Cordyceps_brain_infection" target="_blank">Cordyceps</a> remain high in both the serum and the cerebrospinal fluid. Blood cultures taken from the patient rapidly grow Cordyceps in fungal-media in the lab... however white blood cell lines, including percentages and absolute-counts, are completely normal. There is no elevation of pro-inflammatory cytokines, and an MRI of the brain shows no evidence of fungal-growth in the limbic regions, which would normally accompany the prodrome of aggression in infected patients.</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>We must find a way to replicate this state under laboratory conditions. We're about to hit a milestone in human history equal to the discovery of penicillin. After years of wandering in circles, we're about to come home, make a difference, and bring the human race back into control of its own destiny. All of our sacrifices and the hundreds of men and women who've bled for this cause, or worse, will not be in vain. </em></p><p></p><p><a href="https://thelastofus.fandom.com/wiki/Surgeon%27s_recorder" target="_blank">Surgeon's recorder</a></p><p></p><p>It's not a certainty she's the cure, but it's likely she at least advances the search for one drastically.</p><p></p><p>What is next to certain is that Ellies sacrifice would likely brings humanity a lot closer to a cure than does <strong>killing the very doctor (and likely only person on Earth) who has the above specialized knowledge.</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>Save them from the Zombie apocalypse yes.</p><p></p><p>I mean the vaccine literally stops you from turning into an infected. Meaning the Cordyceps loses its future hosts permanently, leaving the fungus on borrowed time and on a pathway to future extinction (not to mention making their bites go from 'always lethal' to 'painful') and saving literally countless millions of lives going forwards.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agree with the 'giving Ellie a choice'. Both Joel and Marlene are guilty of that crime (depriving her of her agency).</p><p></p><p>But the kicker is that when Marlene told Joel that 'Ellie would have wanted this'<em> even Joel clearly seems to silently agree with her</em> (as do you above). He knows it's what she would have wanted, but he doesnt care because he refuses to lose her. He doesnt care he dooms the world, because he refuses to lose her. He doesnt care he commits multiple cold blooded murders because he refuses to lose her.</p><p></p><p>While both made selfish decisions, at least Marlene was making hers in the way we're all pretty sure Ellie would have made for herself.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>It's a lot 'Gooder' than going on a mass shooting spree and murdering a bunch of people, that's for sure.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In testing most parents saw Joels actions as justified.</p><p></p><p>I sympathize with him, but he's a mass shooter and a cold-blooded murderer, who potentially doomed millions of human beings to an agonizing death for what was ultimately a selfish choice (he knew it was what Ellie herself wanted).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 8963440, member: 6788736"] In the game you literally find an audio recording from the doctor where he states he's ready to synthesize a cure. [INDENT][I]April 28th. [URL='https://thelastofus.fandom.com/wiki/Marlene']Marlene[/URL] was right. The [URL='https://thelastofus.fandom.com/wiki/Ellie']girl[/URL]'s infection is like nothing I've ever seen. The cause of her immunity is uncertain. As we've seen in all past cases, the antigenic titers of the patient's [URL='https://thelastofus.fandom.com/wiki/Cordyceps_brain_infection']Cordyceps[/URL] remain high in both the serum and the cerebrospinal fluid. Blood cultures taken from the patient rapidly grow Cordyceps in fungal-media in the lab... however white blood cell lines, including percentages and absolute-counts, are completely normal. There is no elevation of pro-inflammatory cytokines, and an MRI of the brain shows no evidence of fungal-growth in the limbic regions, which would normally accompany the prodrome of aggression in infected patients.[/I][/INDENT] [INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][I]We must find a way to replicate this state under laboratory conditions. We're about to hit a milestone in human history equal to the discovery of penicillin. After years of wandering in circles, we're about to come home, make a difference, and bring the human race back into control of its own destiny. All of our sacrifices and the hundreds of men and women who've bled for this cause, or worse, will not be in vain. [/I][/INDENT] [URL='https://thelastofus.fandom.com/wiki/Surgeon%27s_recorder']Surgeon's recorder[/URL] It's not a certainty she's the cure, but it's likely she at least advances the search for one drastically. What is next to certain is that Ellies sacrifice would likely brings humanity a lot closer to a cure than does [B]killing the very doctor (and likely only person on Earth) who has the above specialized knowledge.[/B] Save them from the Zombie apocalypse yes. I mean the vaccine literally stops you from turning into an infected. Meaning the Cordyceps loses its future hosts permanently, leaving the fungus on borrowed time and on a pathway to future extinction (not to mention making their bites go from 'always lethal' to 'painful') and saving literally countless millions of lives going forwards. Agree with the 'giving Ellie a choice'. Both Joel and Marlene are guilty of that crime (depriving her of her agency). But the kicker is that when Marlene told Joel that 'Ellie would have wanted this'[I] even Joel clearly seems to silently agree with her[/I] (as do you above). He knows it's what she would have wanted, but he doesnt care because he refuses to lose her. He doesnt care he dooms the world, because he refuses to lose her. He doesnt care he commits multiple cold blooded murders because he refuses to lose her. While both made selfish decisions, at least Marlene was making hers in the way we're all pretty sure Ellie would have made for herself. It's a lot 'Gooder' than going on a mass shooting spree and murdering a bunch of people, that's for sure. In testing most parents saw Joels actions as justified. I sympathize with him, but he's a mass shooter and a cold-blooded murderer, who potentially doomed millions of human beings to an agonizing death for what was ultimately a selfish choice (he knew it was what Ellie herself wanted). [/QUOTE]
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