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Message: <blockquote data-quote="seebs" data-source="post: 6734286" data-attributes="member: 61529">I don't have a strong opinion on Doom in particular, not being an expert on the comics. I'd tend to regard him as Lawful Evil in that he has a consistent code of honor. And yes, it allows for betrayals, but it also has circumstances under which he is very unlikely to betray people, even when it is in his best interests to do so. So that would be my guess, but I am not expert enough in his behavior to be sure of it.My point isn't so much the specific character, as that I can easily describe a set of behaviors or ideals which are clearly Lawful Evil, and are clearly distinct from Neutral Evil or Chaotic Evil. Same for Lawful/Neutral/Chaotic Good. Classic Transformers Megatron? I'd say Neutral Evil; will offer promises but will often break them, but does not specifically seek to break promises as an end in itself, it's just that he doesn't adhere to them.In a recent game, we encountered someone who made arrangements between buyers and hit men. She was lawful evil. We made a deal with her. She adhered precisely to the deal. We had neglected to specify "don't tell the people who were *already* hired to go after us where to find us", so she did that, and we got ambushed, which was inconvenient, but we won.But as long as we were very careful about what we were agreeing to, she was completely reliable. And when we pulled a similar trick on her, she didn't get all whiny about it, she congratulated us on the clever strategy. Still basically in the business of hiring hit men, still willing to kill innocents for personal advancement, but definitely Lawful about it.</blockquote>

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