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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6735100" data-attributes="member: 2067">Personally, I never have interpreted &quot;lawful&quot; as meaning, necessarily, &quot;obeys the law.&quot;It's more that they respect the principle of law and order, that they value the codification of actions, that they recognize the obligation to each other that laws represent. So, consider the LG fighter who is in a corrupt order of knights lead by an LE villain. The villain will make disobedience punishable by death according to the law. The fighter will still not obey the villain's command to kill some orphans, and won't usually accept the punishment, but their challenge will be that the villain isn't legitimate, not that the villain doesn't have the authority. So, for instance, they might get excommunicated from the Order, and found a new Order, one said to &quot;restore the honor these knights once had,&quot; and develop a group of people with whom to dethrone the villain, replacing him with someone less evil who can then undo the wicked laws. While a CG fighter in the same position might instead say that the villain has no right to tell us what to do, and will focus mostly on overthrowing the villain, rather than building an alliance.This might mean that the CG hero's crusade is quick and effective, but lacks staying power (the villain goes into hiding and comes back next year with a group of well-meaning people who are invested in the knights and what they stand for), while the LG hero's crusade takes longer and involves winning hearts and minds, but, once launched, can be sustained, because there's an organization behind it. The NG hero, meanwhile, curbs the excesses of the others and so loses certain benefits and certain weaknesses - slower than the CG hero's crusade, but more sustainable; not as lasting as the LG hero's crusade, but more practical.My view of alignments is probably best codified <a href="http://www.easydamus.com/alignment.html" target="_blank">HERE</a>.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6735100, member: 2067"] Personally, I never have interpreted "lawful" as meaning, necessarily, "obeys the law." It's more that they respect the [I]principle[/I] of law and order, that they value the codification of actions, that they recognize the obligation to each other that laws represent. So, consider the LG fighter who is in a corrupt order of knights lead by an LE villain. The villain will make disobedience punishable by death according to the law. The fighter will still not obey the villain's command to kill some orphans, and won't usually accept the punishment, but their challenge will be that the villain [I]isn't legitimate[/I], not that the villain [I]doesn't have the authority[/I]. So, for instance, they might get excommunicated from the Order, and found a new Order, one said to "restore the honor these knights once had," and develop a group of people with whom to dethrone the villain, replacing him with someone less evil who can then undo the wicked laws. While a CG fighter in the same position might instead say that the villain [I]has no right to tell us what to do,[/I] and will focus mostly on overthrowing the villain, rather than building an alliance. This might mean that the CG hero's crusade is quick and effective, but lacks staying power (the villain goes into hiding and comes back next year with a group of well-meaning people who are invested in the knights and what they stand for), while the LG hero's crusade takes longer and involves winning hearts and minds, but, once launched, can be sustained, because there's an organization behind it. The NG hero, meanwhile, curbs the excesses of the others and so loses certain benefits and certain weaknesses - slower than the CG hero's crusade, but more sustainable; not as lasting as the LG hero's crusade, but more practical. My view of alignments is probably best codified [URL="http://www.easydamus.com/alignment.html"]HERE[/URL]. [/QUOTE]

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