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The "Lawful" alignment, and why "Lawful Evil" is NOT an oxymoron!
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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 6736543" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>Evil individuals do not like to serve under others. That gives them two choices. Serve or lead. When they say rule, they don't mean as king. They just mean that they want to be in charge, which is true. Look at the Mafia. It was all about rising through the ranks to one day be Don. The same applies to dictatorships. The truly LE people are the ones that rule the country or are in the process of rising in the government and military. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Broad strokes have to be used in order for alignment to be a guide and not a sledge hammer. It's an individual who seeks to rule through power tempered by order that they establish, has already been established or both. Such an individual will serve as a means to an end, with that end being that they are in charge of whatever their goal is.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The bolded portion do not need to be in a definition of evil. They are either self-evident, such as the part where you talk about evil people being able to do good/neutral acts, or examples that don't need to be there. As for Dennis Nedry, he intentionally shut down the grid and as the guy in charge of it, he knew that it could allow the dinosaurs to become free and kill people. That rather large possibility is why they had that grid up in the first place. So no, he didn't cause the deaths through negligence, but rather through deliberate act. He just didn't care if it happened so long as he got out and got his money.</p><p></p><p>What is left is a fairly good description of evil. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's pretty good, but I will point out that the tax collecting sheriff is not a servant. He's a leader. The number of LE individuals who don't try to rise to the top of what they do so that they are beholden to no one or as few someones as possible is low. Those that are content to sit in their position and do evil are usually the NE ones who just like to do evil for the sake of evil and don't care if they are at the top or bottom, so long as they can do it, and the CE ones who just like to smash things and make great tools for the LE leaders. There are exceptions, but not many.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 6736543, member: 23751"] Evil individuals do not like to serve under others. That gives them two choices. Serve or lead. When they say rule, they don't mean as king. They just mean that they want to be in charge, which is true. Look at the Mafia. It was all about rising through the ranks to one day be Don. The same applies to dictatorships. The truly LE people are the ones that rule the country or are in the process of rising in the government and military. Broad strokes have to be used in order for alignment to be a guide and not a sledge hammer. It's an individual who seeks to rule through power tempered by order that they establish, has already been established or both. Such an individual will serve as a means to an end, with that end being that they are in charge of whatever their goal is. The bolded portion do not need to be in a definition of evil. They are either self-evident, such as the part where you talk about evil people being able to do good/neutral acts, or examples that don't need to be there. As for Dennis Nedry, he intentionally shut down the grid and as the guy in charge of it, he knew that it could allow the dinosaurs to become free and kill people. That rather large possibility is why they had that grid up in the first place. So no, he didn't cause the deaths through negligence, but rather through deliberate act. He just didn't care if it happened so long as he got out and got his money. What is left is a fairly good description of evil. That's pretty good, but I will point out that the tax collecting sheriff is not a servant. He's a leader. The number of LE individuals who don't try to rise to the top of what they do so that they are beholden to no one or as few someones as possible is low. Those that are content to sit in their position and do evil are usually the NE ones who just like to do evil for the sake of evil and don't care if they are at the top or bottom, so long as they can do it, and the CE ones who just like to smash things and make great tools for the LE leaders. There are exceptions, but not many. [/QUOTE]
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