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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 6667225" data-attributes="member: 63508">One has to remember the the barbarian more or less relies on rages. They only get 2-6 rages in a game designed for 5-8 encounters. And until level 15,a DM to toss out a monster who can stop a rage with control spells or unconsciousness. So for 50% the day, the barbarian is a second rate fighter.The fighter is awesome all day. Even with subclass features expended (sup dice and spell), the fighter still have their fighting style, versatility in weaponry, and increased number of attacks. Add in the bonus feats.The ranger runs out of spells, they stink.The paladin runs out of spells, channel divinities, and lay on hands, they stink.The barbarian runs out of rages, they stink.The monk runs out of ki, they are horrible.The fighter runs out of action surges, second wind, and subclass powers, they are still pretty rocking .</blockquote>