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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 6668179" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>Such as...</p><p></p><p>I'm not up on my Asian or Celtic mythology, and I'm probably a little rusty on my Mythology in general, but none of the superhuman abilities you listed farther back seemed to come from any real myth or legend I recall. I don't recall too many legends of heroes who jump 20 feet vertically, or can carry a horse on their back unencumbered. Some of them were cunning, some were strong, and some were tough, but few broke the limits of mundanity without magic, divine power, or something along those lines. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What Superhuman feat of strength did Attila the Hun do? What unnatural talent did Hector possess? When Did Jason jump over a building, Roland charm someone, or Spartacus carry four times what a normal man could?</p><p></p><p>Your confusing "mythic power" with "high level". Hector is a high level fighter. In 5e, he's probably 15+, capable of attacking three times to a common soldiers one, able to withstand blows that would fell a normal man, shrug off minor injuries, use bursts of energy to act even faster, and even resist attacks targeting his mind or body. Compared to a world of Challenge 1/4 guards, Hector is a god; but he's still only doing what a 15th level fighter is doing. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What do you mean a high-level fighter lacks superhuman levels of skill, strength, and endurance?</p><p></p><p>He has enough stat bumps to raise his strength score or take diverse training. He can act twice per round a couple times per rest. He strikes far more often than other classes per round. He's adept with every weapon, armor, and shield in the game, can self-heal, and has 100's of hit points. He's usually only one feat (GWM/SS) for being totally broken. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There's your problem. Gimli isn't low level. He slew hundreds of orcs in both Helm's Deep and Pelethor Fields. Conan even less so, he did amazing feats of combat and strength that doesn't break mundanity (and he's more a barbarian than a fighter anyway, by the movies. The book, is a barbarian/rogue/fighter). Beowulf is likewise a just high level, as is Lancelot. Gilgamesh or Cuchulain are demi-gods. Aragorn is a superhuman and the King, Legolas is a Tolkien elf (which is basically a perfect being), Arthur has Kingly powers, the blessing of God, AND a holy avenger. All of them are high level fighters (or paladins, rangers, or barbarians).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 6668179, member: 7635"] Such as... I'm not up on my Asian or Celtic mythology, and I'm probably a little rusty on my Mythology in general, but none of the superhuman abilities you listed farther back seemed to come from any real myth or legend I recall. I don't recall too many legends of heroes who jump 20 feet vertically, or can carry a horse on their back unencumbered. Some of them were cunning, some were strong, and some were tough, but few broke the limits of mundanity without magic, divine power, or something along those lines. What Superhuman feat of strength did Attila the Hun do? What unnatural talent did Hector possess? When Did Jason jump over a building, Roland charm someone, or Spartacus carry four times what a normal man could? Your confusing "mythic power" with "high level". Hector is a high level fighter. In 5e, he's probably 15+, capable of attacking three times to a common soldiers one, able to withstand blows that would fell a normal man, shrug off minor injuries, use bursts of energy to act even faster, and even resist attacks targeting his mind or body. Compared to a world of Challenge 1/4 guards, Hector is a god; but he's still only doing what a 15th level fighter is doing. What do you mean a high-level fighter lacks superhuman levels of skill, strength, and endurance? He has enough stat bumps to raise his strength score or take diverse training. He can act twice per round a couple times per rest. He strikes far more often than other classes per round. He's adept with every weapon, armor, and shield in the game, can self-heal, and has 100's of hit points. He's usually only one feat (GWM/SS) for being totally broken. There's your problem. Gimli isn't low level. He slew hundreds of orcs in both Helm's Deep and Pelethor Fields. Conan even less so, he did amazing feats of combat and strength that doesn't break mundanity (and he's more a barbarian than a fighter anyway, by the movies. The book, is a barbarian/rogue/fighter). Beowulf is likewise a just high level, as is Lancelot. Gilgamesh or Cuchulain are demi-gods. Aragorn is a superhuman and the King, Legolas is a Tolkien elf (which is basically a perfect being), Arthur has Kingly powers, the blessing of God, AND a holy avenger. All of them are high level fighters (or paladins, rangers, or barbarians). [/QUOTE]
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