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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ashkelon" data-source="post: 6668672" data-attributes="member: 6774887">No...you didn't. You didn't use numbers or analysis at all. You stated them entirely as fact with nothing to back it up. A level paladin only using his spells to smite gets 25d8 bonus damage. A battlemaster with 2 short rests per day gets 15d10 superiority dice. 25d8>15d10. Everything else about those classes is pretty much equal. This is using your suggestion of 2 rests and 6-8 encounters!!! Your argument simply fails to hold up.I also showed that for ranged combat the classes are all within about 1 DPR of each other. And... How is that relevant. I'm not trying to change the fighter's legacy or tradition here. Why are you getting upset about the possibility of some other martial class? clearly you haven't been paying attention to the arguments. A STR 18 war cleric is just as good at STR related tasks as a fighter. Better actually because of guidance. rogues are only 1 HP per level worse off than the fighter. But they also have evasion and uncanny dodge. Cunning action allows them to easily escape from and skirmish around hordes. Fighter's also aren't all that great at taking on hordes of enemies either. Yes they have multiple attacks, but only more than most other PCs starting at 11. The rogues mobility and ranged capability make it better at dealing with horses in many situations. Most people can't run the suggested number of encounters because Hp and spells run out...I never suggested that....how is this relevant to anything I have been taking about?</blockquote>

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