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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 4873728" data-attributes="member: 82504">wow! we decided not to use elite character rules... in favor of using character builder and just manipulating the adventure more heavy handedly by the dm ;-)So how would we build Elric of Melnibone with this.. let's see the Melniboneans are kind of sadistic eladrin with even more ego than those presented.... but the fey step doesnt fit ... though some of their wierder ritual magics certainly do dimension travelling magics and large scale illusions Tiefling fluff is a match in terms of ancient bonds with demonics... but the fire resistance and he will definitely be ... any raging can be attributed to stormbringer... but that will be a problem designing him no matter what (its a damn big nasty in the room no ignoring it). Tieflings are so close in fluff and Int Cha is also a tight fit (... atleast for Elric himself ). His con would be the 12 ... (would have been an 8 but the bond to SB is one of the elements that make him a Legendary, so it gets to be some of the excuses for the upgrades). I would say wisdom might be 16 in the classic sense of wisdom but I am going to float it for a while. and decide later. So the summoner is his Wizard side  - might have to taint it with something from Warlock just for flavor.... he ends up... using summoning as a last resort so I almost want to do this like well dabbling in wizard only.... His weapon fighting... is bastard sword and he certainly uses a shield at the beginning of his career but he may be retraining some of the moves dependent on it later..  he definitely used some tide of iron and some brash strikes and cleaves.Elric doesnt use any implements unless you count stormbringer.. big damn monkey in the room... we have to count it, but tomes under the hood... If he didnt summon up an acid cloud but that was a daily.He fights more fighter with wizard cantrips and a few arcane dailies but he is really very much a ritual caster but so rich he starts out ignoring the costs of things...  He is a stranger in a strange land in his birth place a true intellectual with a heroic bent in a land of dilettantes with sadistic leanings. Born under a bad sign isnt bad as his mother died having him. Early on he fights with intellect above brawn but takes serious risks because if he didnt finish quickly his weak blood curse left him weakened. (later this was almost entirely over-ridden by SB). His brash/risky yet precise intellect oriented fighting style is a bit of a conundrum... perhaps he used the power strike feat. SB suited well the brashness and infiltrated his fighting enraging him like a battlerager vigor... yes like the new version where attacking bolsters you. ... definitely trained in Arcana and History and likely Intimidate and Diplomacy. His summoning mid battle is often eratic.. but when it works very powerful ACID cloud was one instance.If I were building him as a normal hybrid I would give him fighter armor proficiency (if his class didnt have it he would never have had the con to learn the armor proficiency)...leave him human ... At paragon maybe I could give him BRV to represent Stormbringers influence but without...stormbringer feeding him temporary hitpoints he would hardly work as a warrior... later he got his alchemy potions good enough he didnt even have to have SB to be effective... but that was later on... and with SB he was ungodly... He was pretty dependent on his toy.I am thinking he is feeling closer to a 4e fighter with arcane abilities via multiclassing...(yet he is more intellect than muscle ... his charisma is extraordinary... perhaps his arcane abilities come in under sorcery...  sigh.)He probably requires either a Legendary or starting at high level but not sure I can come up with a reasonable at-wills that are anything but Fighter powers (and the wizard cantrips..) he hated using spells as they drained him badly. Rituals were even something he questioned as they risked his life (again stormbringer made this easier but it didnt convince him dealing with chaos lords was smart ... he turned to summoning primordials and nature lords.There were certain creatures in his world which were soul-less and stormbringer couldn't feed on them nor feed him temporary hitpoints... the DM used them to remind him he could be defeatedAt one point he mystically joined with other incarnations of himself to take on cross-time god status, he drained the power from stars with a sweep of his blade that was not really stormbringer at the time. Eventually he blew the horn which restarted the world and opened the dimensions to entry by the Lords of Law...destiny fulfilled his sword ate him.He typically adventured with one heroic side kick at any given time... one was an archer priest hybrid maybe, another was a talented rogue who used the distraction Elric provided to do sneak attacks nothing too fancy there.... another was a count of uncertain fighting style.</blockquote>

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