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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8746585" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>Can you prove that? Because I can prove that they are normal animals and giant versions of animals, which means they use normal spider means to climb.</p><p></p><p>It does. We don't fall in this universe because magic and you've claimed everything is magic, despite things in D&D 5e explicitly being mundane. And making a distinction between mundane and magic.</p><p></p><p>D&D itself proves you wrong. Just read the 5e PHB and DMG.</p><p></p><p>This is in the 5e DMG</p><p></p><p>"Deep in D&D's roots are elements of science fiction and science fantasy, and your campaign might draw on those sources as well."</p><p></p><p>Um. Reverse Gravity is a spell. And...</p><p></p><p>"For example, you don't provoke an opportunity attack if an explosion hurls you out of a foe's reach <strong>or if gravity causes you to fall past an enemy.</strong>"</p><p></p><p>There are more examples, but that is sufficient to prove what I said.</p><p></p><p>Prove that.</p><p></p><p>Because, curses and evil spirits don't "incubate" and aren't transmitted by things like rats.</p><p></p><p>"Sewer plague is a term for <strong>a broad category of illnesses that incubate in sewers</strong>, refuse heaps, and swamps and that are sometimes transmitted by creatures that dwell in those areas, such as rats and otyughs"</p><p></p><p>Ancient beliefs aren't really relevant. We're talking D&D rules and the D&D rules don't match your claims of "everything is magic."</p><p></p><p>You're saying all of their special abilities are magic. I'm saying they are normal, because the game calls them normal animals and they get those normal abilities from normal real world animals. It does contradict you.</p><p></p><p>It's hard to believe because it's objectively wrong. D&D 5e does differentiate between mundane and magic. </p><p></p><p>"The Material Plane is the nexus where the philosophical and elemental forces that define the other planes collide in the jumbled existence of mortal life and <strong>mundane matter</strong>."</p><p></p><p>It means that a fighter can't train physically and perform an act as some sort of human achievement. Such an act will surpass natural human limits and be a supernatural(magical) act.</p><p></p><p>I didn't say fire. I said hot. A hot object will burn, even if it is not on fire.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8746585, member: 23751"] Can you prove that? Because I can prove that they are normal animals and giant versions of animals, which means they use normal spider means to climb. It does. We don't fall in this universe because magic and you've claimed everything is magic, despite things in D&D 5e explicitly being mundane. And making a distinction between mundane and magic. D&D itself proves you wrong. Just read the 5e PHB and DMG. This is in the 5e DMG "Deep in D&D's roots are elements of science fiction and science fantasy, and your campaign might draw on those sources as well." Um. Reverse Gravity is a spell. And... "For example, you don't provoke an opportunity attack if an explosion hurls you out of a foe's reach [B]or if gravity causes you to fall past an enemy.[/B]" There are more examples, but that is sufficient to prove what I said. Prove that. Because, curses and evil spirits don't "incubate" and aren't transmitted by things like rats. "Sewer plague is a term for [B]a broad category of illnesses that incubate in sewers[/B], refuse heaps, and swamps and that are sometimes transmitted by creatures that dwell in those areas, such as rats and otyughs" Ancient beliefs aren't really relevant. We're talking D&D rules and the D&D rules don't match your claims of "everything is magic." You're saying all of their special abilities are magic. I'm saying they are normal, because the game calls them normal animals and they get those normal abilities from normal real world animals. It does contradict you. It's hard to believe because it's objectively wrong. D&D 5e does differentiate between mundane and magic. "The Material Plane is the nexus where the philosophical and elemental forces that define the other planes collide in the jumbled existence of mortal life and [B]mundane matter[/B]." It means that a fighter can't train physically and perform an act as some sort of human achievement. Such an act will surpass natural human limits and be a supernatural(magical) act. I didn't say fire. I said hot. A hot object will burn, even if it is not on fire. [/QUOTE]
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