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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 3355606" data-attributes="member: 11697">Elder Elves =! LeShay.The elder elves (of Far Realms/'Gates of Firestorm Peak' fame) were as far as anyone knows, just an ancient race of elves on the prime material. And that's the important part there, that they created their accidental gate to the Far Realm on the Prime. That puts an age limit on that right there, because the Prime and anything native to it, are relative n00bs compared to the earliest forms of the Outer planes, inner planes, etc.The LeShay, assuming that their claims are correct, would have been from an earlier iteration of the multiverse, or another multiverse entirely, or through an Ether Gap perhaps they came from a collapsed timeline folded back into the mainline chronology. We don't know given that there's so little about them. And even if they came from an earlier version of the Great Wheel, we don't know at what point they entered into the new version. Time is funky when you think about something "before" a starting point of time, but it's not necessarily solid footing to claim that the LeShay are "older" than certain things in the multiverse or not.</blockquote>