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Message: <blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 8250214" data-attributes="member: 86653">Something that's not your standard sprawling dungeon with dozens of rooms that are mostly combat encounters, trap-laden rooms, and minimal (faction play) interaction.West Marches was a Ben Robbins thing, but people were playing that exact style since almost the beginning of the game. One DM with a large pool of players who self-organized into groups of adventurers plotting their own course into the wild or dungeon. That was standard back in the day.Even that would be a welcome change of pace. If you're going to push linear combat fests, at least keep them short. The sprawling map of endless nothing but combat...ugh.Leaving the dungeon isn't new. But there are more options when you're not limited to a linear dungeon. When you're in a town or city or hexcrawling you can pick a direction and go. You have a freedom of movement and choice you simply don't have in a dungeon.Even that would be a refreshing change. Again, if it's going to be a boring linear slug-fest, at least keep it short.The bolded bits would be new for me as well. Faction play has been around since at least 1980 or 1982. Though I'm not sure what a jacquayed layout would add to a dungeon, unless the point was to avoid things like tracking time, movement, resources, and wandering monsters. I like the moment when the torch goes out and the players realize they just encountered a wandering monster. Skipping that would make what little there is to like about dungeons disappear.I think combat as sport is part of the problem. Combat as war at least relies on the players' creativity to overcome and/or avoid some fights. Combat as sport makes every fight a stand-up brawl to the death and turns things tedious and dull rather quickly.</blockquote>

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