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<blockquote data-quote="Pbartender" data-source="post: 4763791" data-attributes="member: 7533">Our group had similar problems with Red Hand of Doom.To get to the root of the problem...&quot;The players are extremely focused on winning the war, and are moving at an alarming pace.&quot;Which means the players are worried about losing the war if they aren't constantly moving toward winning it.&nbsp; To use a 4E-ism, they need to have &quot;Points of Light&quot; not only geologically, but chronologically...&nbsp; Bits of time in which they know nothing is going to go wrong with the war.&nbsp; Brief periods of respite from the constant threat warfare, which they can use to develop their characters, without having to worry about saving the world.To again use the Star Wars analogy, consider Obiwan training Luke on board the Millenium Falcon after they escape from Tatooine, or Han and Leia and Chewie trying to relax in Cloud City before they're betrayed by Lando, or everyone hanging out in the Ewok village before the raid on the shield generator.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pbartender, post: 4763791, member: 7533"] Our group had similar problems with Red Hand of Doom. To get to the root of the problem... [I]"The players are extremely focused on winning the war, and are moving at an alarming pace."[/I] Which means the players are worried about losing the war if they aren't constantly moving toward winning it. To use a 4E-ism, they need to have "Points of Light" not only geologically, but chronologically... Bits of time in which they know nothing is going to go wrong with the war. Brief periods of respite from the constant threat warfare, which they can use to develop their characters, without having to worry about saving the world. To again use the Star Wars analogy, consider Obiwan training Luke on board the [I]Millenium Falcon[/I] after they escape from Tatooine, or Han and Leia and Chewie trying to relax in Cloud City before they're betrayed by Lando, or everyone hanging out in the Ewok village before the raid on the shield generator. [/QUOTE]

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