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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 1511501" data-attributes="member: 141">Not only does One Step Beyond last 1 day/level, it also affects up to 1 target/level.  You do need a 1000 gp gemstone for each recipient, however.  Sadly, it is material component, not a focus.  Still at less that 50 gp/day it is quite a bargain.  One Step Beyond was originally printed in Book of Eldritch Might III- the Nexus.Do wizards still get 2 free spells/level after they get into epic levels?  Mostin might be able to pick this up next time he levels. ---I don't think that Soneillon's provocation of Eadric was an attempt to cause him to Fall.  She *had* offered to assist him in the journey to oblivion- to go to the bottom of the Abyss and back- but I don't think that journey is something that you can be tricked into.  Eadric would have to embrace that knowingly and willingly.  And I believe her when she says she has no interest in causing Eadric to fall; acting as a tempter is just not part of her paradigm.  Still, this post has raised in me the fear that Eadric *could* fall.  It is primarily Tramst's conversation with Brey that troubles me, though.  Eadric seems to have a penchant for always choosing the most difficult option, which "leads to the Adversarial paradigm, which Saizhan teaches us is incomplete. Evidently, this is so, or the Adversary himself would not have Fallen."To put it bluntly, if you play with fire you are going to get burned.  Eadric is playing with fire by allowing himself to get involved with Soneillon.  I mentioned above that tempting Eadric is not part of Soneillon's paradigm.  That is not completely true: as a succubus, erotic interest is *definitely* part of her paradigm, and seducing him is definitely of interest to her.  And erotic involvement with a demon would violate so many of Eadric's core values, beliefs and tenets that... what, exactly?Eadric realizes that he is above conventional standards of moral behavior.  The scene with the pilgrims underlines his distance from conventional morality.  What that means, exactly, is still being worked out.  Truth is something that is constructed by saizhan: "Saizhan always determines the correct truth." says Tramst.  Does Eadric have the saizhan to create a truth which makes sense of his increasingly complex life?  If he fails to do so, he has to reject whatever doesn't fit.  But what do you do if you find you have to choose between incompatible truths?  If you reject "that which you have experienced to be true, in favour of that which you know, in your heart, to be false," then we meet Tramst's definition for falling.  So Soneillon is definitely an opportunity for Eadric to Fall.  The nature of their relationship is very, very hard to reconcile with the other aspects of Eadric's life.  And Eadric cannot arbitrarily simplify the situation.  Acting on a simpler code may lead him to reject what he knows (on a deeper level) to be truths and embrace what (in his heart) is false.  Perhaps slaying Soneillon would have been a fall-triggering event- perhaps not.  But Eadric is not the kind of person who simplifies the situation in that way.  He showed that when he spared Despina.  This situation is that original situation writ large.  But going along with Soneillon is hardly an option; she has fallen as well.Or has she?  Is falling a subjective event, or an objective event?  Can observers legitimately disagree on whether a particular being has fallen or not?  If Eadric achieves a saizhan sufficiently deep to reveal that Demogorgon is an aspect of Oronthon, perhaps he could walk the path of oblivion and still remain the breath of God.  He would operate in a paradigm that does not see a conflict between the chthonic template and his paladin/contemplative/half-celestial status.  But he might be the only one to see it that way, aside from a few fiends.  If your truth is only recognized by crazy people, doesn't that suggest that you are insane?The situation is unstable.  If Eadric simplifies it, it will likely be at the cost of violating his own integrity.  If he embraces its full complexity, the result may be indistinguishable from the Fall.  If he doubts- if he understands and experiences Nehael's doubt- he might fall as she did.Perhaps, if he is lucky, Graz'zt will kill him before any of these alternatives are realized.  Isn't it sad that an untimely demise at the hands of his worst enemy might be Eadric's best-case scenario?</blockquote>

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