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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Turtlejay" data-source="post: 5025585" data-attributes="member: 70267">Trying to model a quasi-european medival economy to determine whether the price of a bottomless keg of ale is worth the cost of magic armor to determine whether a game designer knows what he is talking about? Nerds! Really, I think his point might be getting lost in the arguments and the edition warring that is going on. What I got out of the article makes sense to me. He would not feel comfortable publishing a book of magic items that he knows don't fit the mold. He likely knows how charop and LFR work. If the players have access to clearly overpowered options (windrise ports, salves of power, etc) they are used and overused in great disproportion to other items or choices. I also get the impression that publishing a book that is entirely DM fiat is not in the cards. How would such a book sell relative to AV3? or 4? I don't really want to sound like I'm in 100% agreement though, because I'm not. While an entire book of these items may not make business sense, Dragon or Dungeon articles do, as would a chapter in a future DMG. A category between Artifacts and Magic Items makes sense, and whomever brought up Narsul and the Staff of Magus is inspired, because I think they hold the key. The problem is, all the speculation about these types of items has illuminated the hole in the design space. To make them, Wotc would have to design them to fit into the current game in an elegant way. And what motivation do they have to do so? PC's are already swimming in options as far as magic items go, and DM's may not be interested in accomodating the potential game-breaking effects of said items. In the end, I think that such a class of items will not be published because there is *no good reason to*. Nothing sinister or broken about it. I'd rather them bend their creativity towards more exiticing content for me, and if this kind of item is not it, I'm content. Jay</blockquote>

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