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<blockquote data-quote="Nellisir" data-source="post: 3613878" data-attributes="member: 70"><p>No, what he asked was, "why does the phrase and comparison exist as a measuring stick?", qualified by the statement that he's never seen any (with, by his standards, two exceptions).</p><p></p><p>His post, and the question, clearly refer not to a theoretical general availability of magic items in the campaign setting, but an actual "Wal-mart-like" establishment in a campaign.</p><p></p><p>What is a Wal-mart-like establishment?</p><p></p><p>I'd attribute the following characteristics to the term: large, characterless, low-cost items, low-quality items, lowest common denominator, uniformity, bland, faceless/unengagable management</p><p></p><p>So if your magic shops doesn't have those qualities, then you haven't got a magic-wal-mart. Your shop might have everything in the DMG at listed price, but if it's quaint, or interesting, or a genuine roleplaying experience, then it's probably not magic-Wal-marty as the phrase is commonly used.</p><p></p><p>I'm sure campaigns exist that do include magic Wal-marts, but the term, overall, is a perjorative one, and the qualities attributed to it are not positive ones.</p><p></p><p>So why does the term exist? Why "magic Wal-mart", and not a "magic shoppe", or even "magic Woolworths"?</p><p></p><p>Because it evokes negative qualities in people's mind, and it's used by people who want to create a negative image.</p><p></p><p>================</p><p>And just to be clear, I don't think the question was about a general availability of magic items. It was about the phrase "magic Wal-Mart", and why it exists. It may have -become- emotionally neutral and purely descriptive for some people, but IMO, it began and remains a negative term for most people. It works because Walmart is a familiar quality with a negative association for the cast majority of Americans (and probably others). It's not about the "myth" of magic item availability.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nellisir, post: 3613878, member: 70"] No, what he asked was, "why does the phrase and comparison exist as a measuring stick?", qualified by the statement that he's never seen any (with, by his standards, two exceptions). His post, and the question, clearly refer not to a theoretical general availability of magic items in the campaign setting, but an actual "Wal-mart-like" establishment in a campaign. What is a Wal-mart-like establishment? I'd attribute the following characteristics to the term: large, characterless, low-cost items, low-quality items, lowest common denominator, uniformity, bland, faceless/unengagable management So if your magic shops doesn't have those qualities, then you haven't got a magic-wal-mart. Your shop might have everything in the DMG at listed price, but if it's quaint, or interesting, or a genuine roleplaying experience, then it's probably not magic-Wal-marty as the phrase is commonly used. I'm sure campaigns exist that do include magic Wal-marts, but the term, overall, is a perjorative one, and the qualities attributed to it are not positive ones. So why does the term exist? Why "magic Wal-mart", and not a "magic shoppe", or even "magic Woolworths"? Because it evokes negative qualities in people's mind, and it's used by people who want to create a negative image. ================ And just to be clear, I don't think the question was about a general availability of magic items. It was about the phrase "magic Wal-Mart", and why it exists. It may have -become- emotionally neutral and purely descriptive for some people, but IMO, it began and remains a negative term for most people. It works because Walmart is a familiar quality with a negative association for the cast majority of Americans (and probably others). It's not about the "myth" of magic item availability. [/QUOTE]
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