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<blockquote data-quote="Jedi_Solo" data-source="post: 3620833" data-attributes="member: 40245"><p>Actually I think that happened right here in this thread for a couple of pages. (Almost) everyone on both sides suddenly went on the defensive and it took well over a page to get back to where we were before the term got used.</p><p></p><p>Insults are strange things. Someone up thread said this portion of the discussion was a straw man because anything can end up being an insult. I agree and disagree with that statement. I agree that anything might be used and percieved as an insult. I disagree that it is a straw man and that this is actually the heart of the entire discussion.</p><p></p><p>When someone feels they have been insulted (intentionally or not) people have a tendancy to put up a wall and become very defensive or very aggresive. Either way the conversation has taken a severe detour and may not ever recover. Even if it does recover the coversation will never be the same as it was before.</p><p></p><p>Many people have given many reasons why Magic Mart can and has been percieved to be an insult. I have no problem giving people one free pass on the term. Maybe they didn't realise that some view it as an elitist insult on play style. After that though I can only determine that if they continue to use the phrase that they intend it to be an insult of play style and that the insults are intended.</p><p></p><p>Just take a look up thread in the discussion of if Shadowfax functions as a Paladin's Mount. Even though one poster explained how Shadowfax does fit the functionality of a Paladin's Mount other posters came and refused to apply the derogitory title of Pokemount to Gandalf's horse.</p><p></p><p>It's the exact same thing with Magic Mart. I don't see that name being any better than Pokemount.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jedi_Solo, post: 3620833, member: 40245"] Actually I think that happened right here in this thread for a couple of pages. (Almost) everyone on both sides suddenly went on the defensive and it took well over a page to get back to where we were before the term got used. Insults are strange things. Someone up thread said this portion of the discussion was a straw man because anything can end up being an insult. I agree and disagree with that statement. I agree that anything might be used and percieved as an insult. I disagree that it is a straw man and that this is actually the heart of the entire discussion. When someone feels they have been insulted (intentionally or not) people have a tendancy to put up a wall and become very defensive or very aggresive. Either way the conversation has taken a severe detour and may not ever recover. Even if it does recover the coversation will never be the same as it was before. Many people have given many reasons why Magic Mart can and has been percieved to be an insult. I have no problem giving people one free pass on the term. Maybe they didn't realise that some view it as an elitist insult on play style. After that though I can only determine that if they continue to use the phrase that they intend it to be an insult of play style and that the insults are intended. Just take a look up thread in the discussion of if Shadowfax functions as a Paladin's Mount. Even though one poster explained how Shadowfax does fit the functionality of a Paladin's Mount other posters came and refused to apply the derogitory title of Pokemount to Gandalf's horse. It's the exact same thing with Magic Mart. I don't see that name being any better than Pokemount. [/QUOTE]
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