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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3624002" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p>There is a difference between reaction and meaning, which are conflated here.</p><p></p><p>When I say, for example, "pokemount", it conveys a specific meaning. It conveys a denotation of this edition's paladin's mount, and a strong connotation of my distaste for the current edition's version of the paladin's mount.</p><p></p><p>It might also provoke a reaction which, IMHO, seems nothing more than "How dare you express a distaste for the current edition's version of the paladin's mount?" Possibly with an irrational conflating that distaste with a distaste for the game system as a whole, or with those who like the current edition's paladin's mount. However, I don't know of a single example where the term "pokemount" was intended to carry this secondary connotation. Nor, frankly, do you need to use the term "pokemount" to garner the same reaction -- you need merely to imply a distaste for the current edition's version of the paladin's mount.</p><p></p><p>The same is true for Magic Walmarts, Magic Marts, and Magic Shops. The problem lies not in the terminology, IMHO, but in the idea that any implication of personal distaste of any game element inherently implies that it is "wrongbadfun".</p><p></p><p>IMHO, this is a failure to read properly, and should be corrected rather than be catered to. YMMV.</p><p></p><p>Of course, some of the very same people who are offended by apparent "slaps" against one edition engage in the same sort of behaviour relating to other editions. Myself, I rather enjoy the Byzantine Gygaxian prose of the 1e DMG, but I can certainly understand that others find it distasteful...even, in some cases, where they may otherwise enjoy the system. In this particular case, the adage about folks in glass houses certainly applies.</p><p></p><p>In short, I think that there are a great many people who know what "pokemount" and "MagicMart" both denote and connote without adding the further connotations that "therefore the game sucks", "therefore if you like the game, you suck" and/or "therefore if you like that (potential) aspect of the game you suck". I would hazard to say that most people don't add those additional connotations to these terms. And, while I cannot guarantee that I am right in so thinking, I certainly <em>hope and believe</em> that I am right in so thinking.</p><p></p><p></p><p>RC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 3624002, member: 18280"] There is a difference between reaction and meaning, which are conflated here. When I say, for example, "pokemount", it conveys a specific meaning. It conveys a denotation of this edition's paladin's mount, and a strong connotation of my distaste for the current edition's version of the paladin's mount. It might also provoke a reaction which, IMHO, seems nothing more than "How dare you express a distaste for the current edition's version of the paladin's mount?" Possibly with an irrational conflating that distaste with a distaste for the game system as a whole, or with those who like the current edition's paladin's mount. However, I don't know of a single example where the term "pokemount" was intended to carry this secondary connotation. Nor, frankly, do you need to use the term "pokemount" to garner the same reaction -- you need merely to imply a distaste for the current edition's version of the paladin's mount. The same is true for Magic Walmarts, Magic Marts, and Magic Shops. The problem lies not in the terminology, IMHO, but in the idea that any implication of personal distaste of any game element inherently implies that it is "wrongbadfun". IMHO, this is a failure to read properly, and should be corrected rather than be catered to. YMMV. Of course, some of the very same people who are offended by apparent "slaps" against one edition engage in the same sort of behaviour relating to other editions. Myself, I rather enjoy the Byzantine Gygaxian prose of the 1e DMG, but I can certainly understand that others find it distasteful...even, in some cases, where they may otherwise enjoy the system. In this particular case, the adage about folks in glass houses certainly applies. In short, I think that there are a great many people who know what "pokemount" and "MagicMart" both denote and connote without adding the further connotations that "therefore the game sucks", "therefore if you like the game, you suck" and/or "therefore if you like that (potential) aspect of the game you suck". I would hazard to say that most people don't add those additional connotations to these terms. And, while I cannot guarantee that I am right in so thinking, I certainly [i]hope and believe[/i] that I am right in so thinking. RC [/QUOTE]
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