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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jedi_Solo" data-source="post: 3624243" data-attributes="member: 40245">They've both been fairly well covered up thread but you have asked for my own personal interpretation of the two. (And the gauntlet has been dropped - I can't refuse that).Both terms are simple single use phrases that in-and-fof themselves have no real meaning - and I don't just mean lack of an official dictionary definition.Pokemount is a term that was coined to compare the ability of the Paladin's Mount to that of an aspect of an animated TV show.  The animated TV in question is fairly obviously targeted to children, and like many children's TV shows appears to be guilty of existing soley for the purpose of it's marketing potential (I will admit that while I have seen sequences of episodes but I will admit I have never seen an entire episode).  The sequences I have seen appeared to be cheaply made and the couple of climaxes to the episode I have seen appeared to be cop-outs (no clever thought out resolution to the apparent problem at hand).  Based on these experiences the comparison to the show makes the anyone that uses the RAW childish (young children's show), cheap (the shows are not well made) and simple-minded (simple writing).3.5 is the first addition to have this style of mount for the paladin and this leads to many people using it as attack at 3.5.  I've seen it many, many times in various edition war threads.To add to these connotations there are also multiple occurances of people saying that some situations are not similar to the Pokemon situation.  Just upthread when Shadowfax was said to be a Pokemount (summoned when needed, arrives when summoned, not there when not needed) and people came out saying that it wasn't that situation at all.  I myself think it's a valid comparison and good source to use if you want to change the flavor of the ability; but when it was suggested as an alternative flavor use the idea was shot down handedly.  This conveyed to me an attitude of "how dare we suggest Shadowfax is a Pokemount" and this comes across to me as an elitist attitude.  MagicMart:  Wal-Mart has some controvercy attached to it.  It doesn't matter at this point if those controversies are justafied or not - they exist.  Wal-Mart has a reputation (negative and posative, deserved or not) for cheap products, cheaply made products, bulk purchases, all stores being the same (at least all the stores of a certain size being the same as chain stores usually do), bullying smaller stores, bulllying suppliers, not being kind to its work force, overseas labor problems and not caring for the customer.To add to this the earlier additions of D&D that had the cartoon of the wizard buying the wand off te shelf doesn't help matters any.Referring to the purchase of magic items as Magic Mart or Magic Wal-Mart carries with it (in my view) the connotations of it being bland (all stores the same), impersonal (how often do you get the same cashier?) and having no 'magic' in magical item (chain stores).  The media isn't Wal-Mart's friend (constant reporting on the controversies) which leaves a bad sense of Wal-Mart in the back of a lot of people's heads (and yes, I do sometimes shop there, last night in fact).The entire Magic Mart aspect has a certain Edition Wars slant to it as well.  3.X is the first (to my knowledge) to embrace the idea of buying and selling magic items.  As the paladin's mount above this lends the purchase of magic items to be a fairly common shot at 3.X and has been used in multiple Edition War threads.  Even earlier editions (in my mind) made this style out to be a 'lesser' and 'more junvenile' style of play.  The cartoon I mentioned earlier  is obviously (to me) an attack on that style of play and so this bring an elitist attitude to the concept.I'm going to be going on vacation (to Origins) in a couple of hours here (meeting up with a friend and we will heading there tomorrow) shortly.  I don't own a laptop so I won't be able to easily have a back and forth but I hope this sheds some light on where I'm coming from with these two terms and where I honestly believe others are coming from as well.  I'll continue to comment while I have the time.</blockquote>

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