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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3624409" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p>I don't get that at all. </p><p></p><p>I am not being deliberately obtuse, either.</p><p></p><p>I understand that Pokemon is a kid's cartoon. I understand that there are some real points of similarity between "poket monsters" and the 3.5 paladin's mount. If those points of similarity were part of an epic, five-part film series made for mature audiences, that I really, really loved, it would certainly conjure a different mental image when using the D&D mechanic.......but it still would seem out of place for Childe Roland, Sir Lancelot, or any of the other "paladin" type characters from folklore or classic fantasy.</p><p></p><p>So, yes, a portion of the problem with the D&D mechanic (for me) is that it conjures up a silly mental image (though, if it doesn't for you, that doesn't make you somehow silly or juvenile, nor should it be considered to do so). A much larger portion, though, is that it violates genre conventions. (Again, if you're using a different genre, that shouldn't bother you.)</p><p></p><p>I still fail to see where "I find monks silly in a European-flavoured game" becomes "and I therefore find you silly for playing one".</p><p></p><p>Maybe it's just me. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /></p><p></p><p>EDIT: Unless you think that when someone says "pokemount" they mean that the 3.5 paladin's mount is <em>objectively silly</em>, (elistist point B from the post upthread) in which case I understand your point. I don't think that the term implies that, though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 3624409, member: 18280"] I don't get that at all. I am not being deliberately obtuse, either. I understand that Pokemon is a kid's cartoon. I understand that there are some real points of similarity between "poket monsters" and the 3.5 paladin's mount. If those points of similarity were part of an epic, five-part film series made for mature audiences, that I really, really loved, it would certainly conjure a different mental image when using the D&D mechanic.......but it still would seem out of place for Childe Roland, Sir Lancelot, or any of the other "paladin" type characters from folklore or classic fantasy. So, yes, a portion of the problem with the D&D mechanic (for me) is that it conjures up a silly mental image (though, if it doesn't for you, that doesn't make you somehow silly or juvenile, nor should it be considered to do so). A much larger portion, though, is that it violates genre conventions. (Again, if you're using a different genre, that shouldn't bother you.) I still fail to see where "I find monks silly in a European-flavoured game" becomes "and I therefore find you silly for playing one". Maybe it's just me. :uhoh: EDIT: Unless you think that when someone says "pokemount" they mean that the 3.5 paladin's mount is [i]objectively silly[/i], (elistist point B from the post upthread) in which case I understand your point. I don't think that the term implies that, though. [/QUOTE]
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