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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 3629157" data-attributes="member: 2067">The derogatory doesn't matter. What matters is that it's not nearly as well understood as you think it is. Derogatory toward a person or an idea merely exacerbates the situation, and in that case, it doesn't matter whether it's a person or an idea, it is derogatory and that will make individuals defensive and close off much meaningful conversation. If I call someone's ideas idiotic tripe, if I imply that smart, relevant people don't have those ideas, so the speaker must not be one of those.The same thing occurs if someone in Atlanta asks me "What kind of Coke do you want?" Everyone in Atlanta may know what that means, heck, maybe everyone in a 100-mile radius around the entire state of Georgia knows what that means, but ask someone from North Dakota that, and you won't get your point across very well. That's not derogatory, but it isn't the most effective means of communication, especially if I keep insisting that I get to use Coke as catch-all reference for carbonated beverages while I'm on vacation in the Theodore Roosevelt National Park. If it *was* derogatory, or even just perceived as such, that would just create MORE barriers to conversation.Turns out, more than a handful of people consider Magic Wal-Mart to be derogatory, so insisting you need to use the phrase in the face of people who are going to get offended is basically saying "I don't care about communicating effectively, I care about using the language I want to use." It's well within your rights, but a spade's a spade: you're not talking with someone at that point, you're just talking at them.Hahahahaha. That you can assume, with how long this thread has gone on, that Magic Walmart and Pokemount have definitions that are anywhere close to accepted, and that it can actually be decided by sane discussion whether or not the reader should or should not take them as derogatory makes me think that you are bafflingly Quixotic about this thread, and perhaps about language in general.But good luck with this exercise in herding cats. I'm sure whatever conclusion you reach, nothing will change, people will still be offended by these terms, and you will continue to tell them they should not be, because you didn't mean it like that. C'est le vive.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

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