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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9335976" data-attributes="member: 6801228">What is the equivalent to out-ranging and slowing your opponent in a charisma check? Rolling with a 40% of success on a single roll challenge is equivalent to anything I could do with Ray of Frost in a fight? Gibbering Mouther, CR 2, speed of 10 fight, low AC. Ray of Frost reduces their speed by... 10 ft. That single cantrip turns that from a fight into target practice. You are only looking at the narrowest possible interpretation, and refusing anything else.Ah yes, just like Clerics and Warlocks could be so much better if they did not insist on investing in Wisdom and Charisma respectively, right?Positioning matters a whole lot more. Ranged characters are often not even targeted by attacks, compared to melee characters.And there is your assumption. First, 18 is the best possible for them until well-beyond level 3. Secondly, per time attacked is the key and thirdly... you just decide to assume that the wizard will be targeted almost as often. For no other reason than it supports your argument.And here it is. "Yes, of course your wizard isn't going to do as well. The moment you cast a single spell you are such a massive threat that every single enemy on the entire battlefield will immediately rush towards you, taking free attacks from the fighters and rogues, all to kill you as soon as possible." With that as you position... remind me again why spellcasters aren't just as, if not more powerful than martials in combat? I don't tend to suicide rush weak, ineffectual targets in a combat. Frankly, do we even need to discuss further? This just PROVES the point, so much more effectively than anything I could say.What about making a skill check requires me to be actively looking at the flower? If someone says a name, and I roll to see if I know the name, does RAW state I need to be actively looking at the name written out on paper to make the check?Man, you should tell all those people with field guides on plants and animals how it is nearly impossible to identify something from memory, and really really hard if you can't touch or taste it. I mean, they only have pictures in a book, and you might not even have the book with you when you see the thing! Utterly useless to anyone, right?And you are trying to hit an AC 17 with disadvantage. Good thing for your fighter someone might cast a spell so that every single enemy ignores him until the real threats are dealt with.</blockquote>

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