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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9339518" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>I know, yet when I say "hey, can we have fighters who are as strong as literal war machines and vampires break a stone wall with their fist" I get in response "But that isn't possible, no human is that strong! You need an explanation for why this completely ordinary human should be considered that strong and their strength score doesn't count!" </p><p></p><p>Or, "Hey, can we have these fighters able to leap far distances, because that could help with their mobility" I get "But that isn't possible, no human can do that! You need an explanation for why this completely ordinary human should be able to do that!" </p><p></p><p>But if I want to be a human who can weaponize psychic powers of their mind... well that's okay as long as it is the subclass, because the subclass says they are a human who can weaponize the psychic powers of their mind. It is always completely impossible... until a subclass says they have supernatural abilities and suddenly it is the most possible thing in the world, barely a problem really. Or a feat, if a feat says that they have the supernatural psychic abilities that is okay too. But give them new abilities as a baseline? INCONCEIVABLE! These are completely ordinary not special at all humans, after all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9339518, member: 6801228"] I know, yet when I say "hey, can we have fighters who are as strong as literal war machines and vampires break a stone wall with their fist" I get in response "But that isn't possible, no human is that strong! You need an explanation for why this completely ordinary human should be considered that strong and their strength score doesn't count!" Or, "Hey, can we have these fighters able to leap far distances, because that could help with their mobility" I get "But that isn't possible, no human can do that! You need an explanation for why this completely ordinary human should be able to do that!" But if I want to be a human who can weaponize psychic powers of their mind... well that's okay as long as it is the subclass, because the subclass says they are a human who can weaponize the psychic powers of their mind. It is always completely impossible... until a subclass says they have supernatural abilities and suddenly it is the most possible thing in the world, barely a problem really. Or a feat, if a feat says that they have the supernatural psychic abilities that is okay too. But give them new abilities as a baseline? INCONCEIVABLE! These are completely ordinary not special at all humans, after all. [/QUOTE]
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