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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crimson Longinus" data-source="post: 9341646" data-attributes="member: 7025508">I think high level martials, especially those that function on strength should be able to perform superhuman feats of strength, but they cannot even come close to what completely mundane normal humans in the real world are capable of. Recently in my campaign the characters have needed to move around certain rather heavy object, they obtained from a giant. (A magical stone cube.) By the actual rules the high Str characters are pathetically weak. We have two characters with Str 19, so one would imagine, that this would not be an issue, but no. Under the variant encumbrance rules even the stone giant from which this cube was obtained from (the stone would fit on one palm of the giant) would be encumbered if it tried to carry two of them. And whilst the characters could lift it, they could not carry it. (I totally did let them carry it, but I did the math later and realised that this should have not been possible by the rules. I also had the giant to throw a boulder that was way bigger than this stone cube which it by the rules probably couldn't even lift.)Meanwhile deadlift world record is 1100 pounds, which would in D&D require strength of 37!</blockquote>