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<blockquote data-quote="W'rkncacnter" data-source="post: 9148881" data-attributes="member: 7033455">it's mathematically worse then GWM/SS (2d6 is 7 extra average damage) until about level 15, where it's very slightly better (3d6 is 10.5 extra average damage). working on spells is nice, but it's only useful for spells with attack rolls (e.g. scorching ray), of which not too many exist. edit: really, scorching ray is a bit of an outlier here - most attack spells are single target (at least per turn), whereas scorching ray lets you belt out a lot of attacks in a single turn very early on.edit 2: it's also true that the GWM/SS equivalents work differently in a5e, but the GWM equivalent has been buffed (while 5e/a5e consider disadvantage to be equivalent to a -5, it's actually closer to a -3 on average) and the SS equivalent is minus prof to attack/double prof to damage, which is a whole different set of math except for levels 13-16.the player who's making the attack is, though.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="W'rkncacnter, post: 9148881, member: 7033455"] it's mathematically worse then GWM/SS (2d6 is 7 extra average damage) until about level 15, where it's very slightly better (3d6 is 10.5 extra average damage). working on spells is nice, but it's only useful for spells with attack rolls (e.g. scorching ray), of which not too many exist. edit: really, scorching ray is a bit of an outlier here - most attack spells are single target (at least per turn), whereas scorching ray lets you belt out a lot of attacks in a single turn very early on. edit 2: it's also true that the GWM/SS equivalents work differently in a5e, but the GWM equivalent has been buffed (while 5e/a5e consider disadvantage to be equivalent to a -5, it's actually closer to a -3 on average) and the SS equivalent is minus prof to attack/double prof to damage, which is a whole different set of math except for levels 13-16. the player who's making the attack is, though. [/QUOTE]

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