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<blockquote data-quote="Nifft" data-source="post: 4198337" data-attributes="member: 6562">Wait, isn't that the whole point of those Per-Encounter doohickeys? That you will have at least one (set of) trick(s) which are neither at-will nor which you can &quot;use up&quot; in a single encounter? Or am I missing something basic. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp;But the party goes through 4 encounters per day -- the 4th encounter's EL can't assume a fresh party!&nbsp;Ah, yes. This I buy totally.I'd posit that, for my group at the very least (but hopefully many others), the players want to keep adventuring, and the &quot;15 minute work-day&quot; is more a product of the players' fear (and resultant overkill) than it is a result of munchkinism and their desire to take on foes above their level.So the mere ability to carry on, even without any incentive to do so, may very well be sufficient to change their playstyle -- since they would be changing to a playstyle they prefer. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Cheers, -- N</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nifft, post: 4198337, member: 6562"] Wait, isn't that the whole point of those Per-Encounter doohickeys? That you will have at least one (set of) trick(s) which are neither at-will nor which you can "use up" in a single encounter? Or am I missing something basic. :) But the party goes through 4 encounters per day -- the 4th encounter's EL can't assume a fresh party! Ah, yes. This I buy totally. I'd posit that, for my group at the very least (but hopefully many others), the players [u]want[/u] to keep adventuring, and the "15 minute work-day" is more a product of the players' fear (and resultant overkill) than it is a result of munchkinism and their desire to take on foes above their level. So the mere ability to carry on, even without any incentive to do so, may very well be sufficient to change their playstyle -- since they would be changing to a playstyle they prefer. :) Cheers, -- N [/QUOTE]

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