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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6055773" data-attributes="member: 177">yes, I've heard that argument.  By the same logic, Luke Skywalker is a mass murderer, for how many people died when he blew up the Death Star.I generally consider Neo and Luke to both be at war, and for many folks that implies a different moral and ethical standard.  You only go to war when the need is very great, and the deaths of some who aren't the BBEG are acceptable when compared to the need. If you don't think needs Luke and Neo were trying to meet justified a few extra casualties, then yes, they are Bad Guys.</blockquote>