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<blockquote data-quote="evildmguy" data-source="post: 2707837" data-attributes="member: 6092">Okay, I realize I wasn't clear.&nbsp; Let me try and explain.&nbsp; I think this was part of the cycle.&nbsp; The machines are pushed back but not destroyed.&nbsp; Humans get a chance to free some more from the matrix, as those humans are still trapped in there, before the machines again get enough power and resources to be a problem.&nbsp; I mean, assumably there is more than one core point in the machines setup.&nbsp; This does mean that it should probably be closer to 8199, than 2199, to allow for five cycles but that's me.&nbsp; And some good points.&nbsp; I am not arguing with your points but speaking out loud as to what I think to try and figure it out for myself.&nbsp; Smith has become something that frightens both the computer and the humans.&nbsp; He is attacking both trying to wipe out both.&nbsp; Thus my idea of Entropy for him, although he was called Death in the movies.&nbsp; Whatever Smith became, he did so when Neo &quot;destroyed&quot; him at the end of the first movie.&nbsp; Assumably there are variations each time.&nbsp; My thought is that Smith became a rogue program but with additional &quot;powers&quot; or abilities.&nbsp; However, his thinking led him to decide that he was sick of the war and wanted it over, hence trying to get rid of both sides.&nbsp; Yeah, that part was obvious.&nbsp; However, I do think it fit the story another way.&nbsp; Someone had to die for Neo to get to the city and that was Trinity.&nbsp; Because she died, Neo didn't want to live so he did what he did as his last act and then died from it or let himself die because he didn't want to live.&nbsp; However, lots of martyr images there, I agree.&nbsp; Hmm.&nbsp; Again, good points.&nbsp; It could be that Smith only recently went rogue and the Merovingian didn't have time to figure him out.&nbsp; I don't know.&nbsp; So, is it your theory that the One exists to free the humans until the machines come back or the cycle renews??&nbsp; And that's why it is tough to figure out Smith?&nbsp; I keep wondering if the movies are trying to show the anamoly and why this cycle is different from the others.&nbsp; Granted, we only have five, so who knows?&nbsp; Thanks for the reply!&nbsp; Good ideas!&nbsp; I hope mine were a bit more clear but if not, I blame my cold!&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; Have a good one!&nbsp; Take care!&nbsp; edg</blockquote>

[QUOTE="evildmguy, post: 2707837, member: 6092"] Okay, I realize I wasn't clear. Let me try and explain. I think this was part of the cycle. The machines are pushed back but not destroyed. Humans get a chance to free some more from the matrix, as those humans are still trapped in there, before the machines again get enough power and resources to be a problem. I mean, assumably there is more than one core point in the machines setup. This does mean that it should probably be closer to 8199, than 2199, to allow for five cycles but that's me. And some good points. I am not arguing with your points but speaking out loud as to what I think to try and figure it out for myself. Smith has become something that frightens both the computer and the humans. He is attacking both trying to wipe out both. Thus my idea of Entropy for him, although he was called Death in the movies. Whatever Smith became, he did so when Neo "destroyed" him at the end of the first movie. Assumably there are variations each time. My thought is that Smith became a rogue program but with additional "powers" or abilities. However, his thinking led him to decide that he was sick of the war and wanted it over, hence trying to get rid of both sides. Yeah, that part was obvious. However, I do think it fit the story another way. Someone had to die for Neo to get to the city and that was Trinity. Because she died, Neo didn't want to live so he did what he did as his last act and then died from it or let himself die because he didn't want to live. However, lots of martyr images there, I agree. Hmm. Again, good points. It could be that Smith only recently went rogue and the Merovingian didn't have time to figure him out. I don't know. So, is it your theory that the One exists to free the humans until the machines come back or the cycle renews?? And that's why it is tough to figure out Smith? I keep wondering if the movies are trying to show the anamoly and why this cycle is different from the others. Granted, we only have five, so who knows? Thanks for the reply! Good ideas! I hope mine were a bit more clear but if not, I blame my cold! :) Have a good one! Take care! edg [/QUOTE]

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