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<blockquote data-quote="TwoSix" data-source="post: 8082227" data-attributes="member: 205">No, you're right, that subclass is pretty much shite.&nbsp; I overlooked it because I prefer Kibbles Artificer to the official one, but giving it a second glance, it's really bad.&nbsp; It seems to be built on the assumption that there's some sort of multi-spell list shenanigans you can get into because everyone thinks Bard's Magical Secrets are so good.&nbsp; It forgets that Bard Magical Secrets are so good because it's a full caster, so you're getting those bonus spells when they do the most good.At a minimum, the 15th level feature (extra spells) should be folded into the 3rd level feature.&nbsp; The &quot;ongoing benefits&quot; clause has to go, grabbing fun spells like find steed and find familiar should be part of the point.&nbsp; I'd roll the cantrip specialist and cantrip savant feature together at 5.&nbsp; Make the action cantrip swap a short rest feature, and tack on a potent cantrip effect (+Int to cantrip damage) as well.&nbsp; Superior Breakthrough at 9 is a good powerup combined with the extra slots from the level 3 feature as I proposed.&nbsp; The 15th level capstone should give you the ability to prepare a 6th and 7th level spell from your Breakthrough lists, and you gain an 8th level at level 18.&nbsp; Add all that, and it becomes an OK, but not awesome, subclass.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TwoSix, post: 8082227, member: 205"] No, you're right, that subclass is pretty much shite. I overlooked it because I prefer Kibbles Artificer to the official one, but giving it a second glance, it's really bad. It seems to be built on the assumption that there's some sort of multi-spell list shenanigans you can get into because everyone thinks Bard's Magical Secrets are so good. It forgets that Bard Magical Secrets are so good because [I]it's a full caster, [/I]so you're getting those bonus spells when they do the most good. At a minimum, the 15th level feature (extra spells) should be folded into the 3rd level feature. The "ongoing benefits" clause has to go, grabbing fun spells like [I]find steed[/I] and [I]find familiar[/I] should be part of the point. I'd roll the cantrip specialist and cantrip savant feature together at 5. Make the action cantrip swap a short rest feature, and tack on a potent cantrip effect (+Int to cantrip damage) as well. Superior Breakthrough at 9 is a good powerup combined with the extra slots from the level 3 feature as I proposed. The 15th level capstone should give you the ability to prepare a 6th and 7th level spell from your Breakthrough lists, and you gain an 8th level at level 18. Add all that, and it becomes an OK, but not awesome, subclass. [/QUOTE]

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