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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MerricB" data-source="post: 1839141" data-attributes="member: 3586">Huh? Nope, it's fine with me. I think the original Dragon Disciple to be a powerful prestige class.However, the class is not a primary spellcaster. In D&D you have combat types and you have spell-caster types.If your character doesn't have combat abilities, then losing spell levels is devastating.The Dragon Disciple was a combat class - it required a knowledge of arcana that was unusual for most combat classes, but it worked exceedingly well if you could properly get the prereqs.You took levels of Dragon Disciple (3e) to get the size increase and the massive bonuses to ability scores.Saving throws are broken on the powerful end; Base Attack is broken on the underpowered end. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Cheers!</blockquote>