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Message: <blockquote data-quote="unan oranis" data-source="post: 5781355" data-attributes="member: 65462">I'd like to see the difference-maker be that a cleric channels a greater power, and the wizard stands alone.Alignment, code of conduct and weird taboos are critical factors for every cleric spell.Each casting of a cleric spell is considered in its context to the gawds interests.In a nutshell; the cleric would be selected for circumstantial ups and downs more frequently.Also, the gawd, power, chi etc is a built in npc influence for the DM.  If you like an obi kenobi style voice over, a rare omen or a mortal agent, the gawd connection is handy (though I guess a wizards familiar could stand in for the same purpose).I don't feel a need for the clerics spells to be a completley different animal.  I'm fine with editions where the clerics spells were weaker as a trade for armor and so forth.As a 4e player your spells are identical to everybodies, in a way...  which is one way to solve the problem.  (I mean the framework of powers, mechanicly - there are loads of clever ways each class is distinct in 4e, no dis intended)</blockquote>