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Message: <blockquote data-quote="howandwhy99" data-source="post: 5781939" data-attributes="member: 3192">True miracles are acts of the gods. For my game, that's the distinction between a magic-user and a cleric using divine magic. The magic-user is using the power of the world and the planes that make it up, basically the Inner Planes. The cleric is calling on his or her specific deity to channel through them Outer Planar divine power.This is what the Turning ability is all about: channeling that power in pure form. It is a miracle, sort of seeing the face of an others god.So Big Deal, right? How I make these miraculous rather than magical (or psionic) is by making them unique. The divine spell system is different from the arcane one. The spells available are different. There may be some overlapping effects and each can be put into specializations (i.e. magic schools or religious canons) and then unique character personalization, but for the most part the effects are different. There exists a divide.Think of it like the subclass Illusionist. The Illusionist spell lists are different from the M-Us. It is a specialty school with unique spells a M-U does not have access too. Now take that on a wide level in terms of clerics and we get even more separation, a greater diversity while retaining class identity and niche.What I don't suggest is having different numbers, but every effect be in every camp. By effect I mean teleport is not invisibility is not enlarge is not magic missile. Don't make a difference the same lightning bolt effect, but 4d6 vs. 3d8 damage. The more similar the effects are the less miraculous (and magical) they characters become.</blockquote>

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