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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 6943896" data-attributes="member: 158">Nope, the "most players" I was referring to were the players that [MENTION=80982]pdzoch[/MENTION] was referring to when he spoke of devaluing CHA over CON, and I don't blame players who do if the games they are playing in do not value CHA over other stats. While my experience isn't all-encompassing or anything silly like that, it's pretty varied, covering game groups over several states, as well as convention games and examples freely given on forums all over the Internet, and in most cases I've experienced or have been related to me, it does seem that a good CON and Primary stat is a safer bet than favoring CHA for the sake of interaction.Not analogous at all, since as was pointed out, a wizard is not useless in an encounter with a creature resistant to magic, and secondly, I have experienced plenty of games with tons of creatures the DM wouldn't let you reason with, but uncommonly experienced a game with tons of creatures resistant to magic.Also, I didn't say I found charsima focused characters a waste as you seem to imply - in fact I pretty much gave an example of the exact opposite instance. Some people I've met however DO consider it a waste, and they're usually the same people who've rarely had DMs introduce many social encounters.</blockquote>