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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6944861" data-attributes="member: 6787650"><p>Obviously Darwinian fitness is not synonymous with health. I've been drawing this distinction all along every time I wrote "(Darwinian) fitness" instead of "fitness." It's unfortunate that the two terms overlap, but I assure you I'm not confused about the two terms.</p><p></p><p>A wise choice of mate is one who is likely to produce lots of healthy, fertile offspring who likewise live to have offspring of their own. Some fitness factors are invisible (like the ability to metabolize lactose in a culture which has recently domesticated cows); some are visible (glowing health as a marker for low genetic load); some aren't genetic per se at all (plumpness = relative wealth = children will have plenty of food).</p><p></p><p>If you want to run it some other way, knock yourself out. But using Con as a proxy for physical attractiveness works just fine in 5E, as well as any other stat abstraction we use. (E.g. Intelligence being independent of Wisdom--in real life there's a <a href="https://poseidon01.ssrn.com/delivery.php?ID=598084112068094078103108069113098026104005064017060018007086106124002120002101001011061119044127042010060117028006077071031101012016025042084123019030089116110003018082020023076111069030065100083025100066065124107118015096029104028028009109106102103&EXT=pdf" target="_blank">positive correlation</a> between higher IQ and lower time preference.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6944861, member: 6787650"] Obviously Darwinian fitness is not synonymous with health. I've been drawing this distinction all along every time I wrote "(Darwinian) fitness" instead of "fitness." It's unfortunate that the two terms overlap, but I assure you I'm not confused about the two terms. A wise choice of mate is one who is likely to produce lots of healthy, fertile offspring who likewise live to have offspring of their own. Some fitness factors are invisible (like the ability to metabolize lactose in a culture which has recently domesticated cows); some are visible (glowing health as a marker for low genetic load); some aren't genetic per se at all (plumpness = relative wealth = children will have plenty of food). If you want to run it some other way, knock yourself out. But using Con as a proxy for physical attractiveness works just fine in 5E, as well as any other stat abstraction we use. (E.g. Intelligence being independent of Wisdom--in real life there's a [URL="https://poseidon01.ssrn.com/delivery.php?ID=598084112068094078103108069113098026104005064017060018007086106124002120002101001011061119044127042010060117028006077071031101012016025042084123019030089116110003018082020023076111069030065100083025100066065124107118015096029104028028009109106102103&EXT=pdf"]positive correlation[/URL] between higher IQ and lower time preference.) [/QUOTE]
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