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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 1340170" data-attributes="member: 151">Yes, but why retool the wheel when you already have other classes that can meet your needs? A multiclassed fighter/sorceror or fighter/cleric would be able to accomplish similar goals.&nbsp;Basically, it sounds as if you want to play a Paladin, without any of the inconvienence of actually being a paladin. Look paladin up in the dictionary, what do you find? Let's ask Websters, shall we?&nbsp;In other words, the word paladin literally means knight.Paladins, as a class, are based on knights. Now, there's nothing wrong with wanting to play a non-standard paladin...but realize that what you're discussing is just that.The archtype you want to play doesn't fit the paladin class well, at all, due to all the excess baggage he's carrying in terms of abilities, feats and so forth. Heck, a fighter with a ring of Detect Evil (Always On) could do the same thing.&nbsp;Those DMs you're referring to aren't judging the class against some unknown or mythical standard...they're taking the material straight out of the PHB.&nbsp; Can the class be used differently?&nbsp; Sure it can...but it's a house rule variant to do so.&nbsp; You've already seen the quotes from the SRD and PHB.&nbsp; You don't like the base version, and that's fine...but understand that you are the one wants something different, and not that those DMs are misreading the class description.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 1340170, member: 151"] Yes, but why retool the wheel when you already have other classes that can meet your needs? A multiclassed fighter/sorceror or fighter/cleric would be able to accomplish similar goals. Basically, it sounds as if you want to play a Paladin, without any of the inconvienence of actually [i]being[/i] a paladin. Look paladin up in the dictionary, what do you find? Let's ask Websters, shall we? [font=Verdana]In other words, the word paladin literally means knight.[/font][font=Verdana]Paladins, as a class, are based on knights. Now, there's nothing wrong with wanting to play a non-standard paladin...but realize that what you're discussing is just that.[/font][font=Verdana]The archtype you want to play doesn't fit the paladin class well, at all, due to all the excess baggage he's carrying in terms of abilities, feats and so forth. Heck, a fighter with a ring of Detect Evil (Always On) could do the same thing.[/font] Those DMs you're referring to aren't judging the class against some unknown or mythical standard...they're taking the material straight out of the PHB. Can the class be used differently? Sure it can...but it's a house rule variant to do so. You've already seen the quotes from the SRD and PHB. You don't like the base version, and that's fine...but understand that [b]you[/b] are the one wants something different, and not that those DMs are misreading the class description. [/QUOTE]

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