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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 1341114" data-attributes="member: 3146"><p>An interesting assertion--I'd probably guess fighter/bard myself. Anyone want to post how Testament statted him up?</p><p></p><p>Come to think of it, I'm not certain that there are <em>any</em> Old Testament characters who would be appropriately represented by the paladin class. I think that most of the historical/legendary inspirations for paladins are from the Christian era--Saint George (at least as portrayed in some legends), Roland, Galahad, Percival, etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And, as to the lying discussion, I think that the example of the paladin saying that he's not the kind of person the evil overlord ought to lock up is a perfect example of what paladins <em>ought</em> to do. Most people will allow that there is a difference between directly lying and giving statements that can be misinterpreted. And there's certainly a long ways between telling a lie and not telling everyone every conceivable detail about everything they ask about. (A lot of people will ask for information that is none of their business and different levels of detail and precision are appropriate for different relationships and situations). In any case, the paladin in that question <em>isn't</em> actually misleading anyone. While he knows that the evil overlord probably thinks that paladins should be locked up, the evil overlord ought not to be locking up paladins (indeed, he ought not to be an evil overlord to begin with). </p><p></p><p>In any event, that is actually the strategy that the people most opposed to lying have used where the whole truth will be disastrous. The people I know who used to smuggle bibles into the USSR, would reply that, no, they don't have any pornography or harmful materials in their car. They knew that the soviets thought bibles harmful but the Soviets were wrong and bibles aren't harmful so they weren't lying. Had they been asked if they had bibles in their vehicle, they had decided they'd say "yes." Similarly, the dutch ladies (whose names I've unfortunately forgotten) who were hiding Jews in their house would offer the Nazis tea or cookies when asked if they were hiding Jews and then would, later, when the subject came up again, say that they weren't doing anything bad and the Nazis would move on to the next house. (It worked for several years before they were caught and thrown into concentration camps).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 1341114, member: 3146"] An interesting assertion--I'd probably guess fighter/bard myself. Anyone want to post how Testament statted him up? Come to think of it, I'm not certain that there are [i]any[/i] Old Testament characters who would be appropriately represented by the paladin class. I think that most of the historical/legendary inspirations for paladins are from the Christian era--Saint George (at least as portrayed in some legends), Roland, Galahad, Percival, etc. And, as to the lying discussion, I think that the example of the paladin saying that he's not the kind of person the evil overlord ought to lock up is a perfect example of what paladins [i]ought[/i] to do. Most people will allow that there is a difference between directly lying and giving statements that can be misinterpreted. And there's certainly a long ways between telling a lie and not telling everyone every conceivable detail about everything they ask about. (A lot of people will ask for information that is none of their business and different levels of detail and precision are appropriate for different relationships and situations). In any case, the paladin in that question [i]isn't[/i] actually misleading anyone. While he knows that the evil overlord probably thinks that paladins should be locked up, the evil overlord ought not to be locking up paladins (indeed, he ought not to be an evil overlord to begin with). In any event, that is actually the strategy that the people most opposed to lying have used where the whole truth will be disastrous. The people I know who used to smuggle bibles into the USSR, would reply that, no, they don't have any pornography or harmful materials in their car. They knew that the soviets thought bibles harmful but the Soviets were wrong and bibles aren't harmful so they weren't lying. Had they been asked if they had bibles in their vehicle, they had decided they'd say "yes." Similarly, the dutch ladies (whose names I've unfortunately forgotten) who were hiding Jews in their house would offer the Nazis tea or cookies when asked if they were hiding Jews and then would, later, when the subject came up again, say that they weren't doing anything bad and the Nazis would move on to the next house. (It worked for several years before they were caught and thrown into concentration camps). [/QUOTE]
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