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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Calico_Jack73" data-source="post: 1351320" data-attributes="member: 14403">Interesting points.  Kinda like attacking Iraq because they might eventually produce a WMD and sell it to a terrorist group.  There isn't a black and white answer.  Both sides have valid points.  Do you let the goblins live and possibly become a threat in the future or do you kill the noncombatants?  In that light, I'd almost have to say that the Paladin is best played as an holy avenger.  Being an avenger he'd probably opt to wait and see if the goblins become a problem again and then react (kinda like the US position before Sept 11th).  Slaying innocents who haven't committed a crime yet is definitely wrong.  Just watch Minority Report.  None of the criminals had done anything YET but were being locked away for a crime that they still had the choice to commit.Once again, not to play the devil's advocate, but if people are going to say that lying is a sin for a paladin then it is the intent that is the sin as much as the act.  I'd believe that in that mindset a paladin wouldn't allow the bard to lie for him.</blockquote>