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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jimlock" data-source="post: 5995686" data-attributes="member: 6674931">Another setback the monk has is the following:I think these sort of debates make some (if any...) sense only in case if PVP fights.You put two characters in an arena and you let them work it out.If this is the case, yes the prepared Wizard is unbeatable.As for sneaking up on a Wizard (or any other character)... attacking him in his sleep... and blah blah blah... are equally pointless as discussions.NOT because these situations are impossible to come up but because it is naive to try and imagine such setups out of the blue...If you do it that way you can clearly give one character the advantage (surprise) and be done with.A wizard, or any other powerful character, humanoid or not, in the context of D&D is not automaton that spends all his life in distant planes, away from people and civilization so as to be prepared 24/7 for any sort of attack from 20th level fighters, 20th level monks... or whatever have you...If this is the case... then I'm sorry that you are playing such a horrible and unrealistic game.He is an entity with needs. He needs to get laid, he needs to eat well, he needs good company and friends... he needs libraries to study his favored art...  he  needs to walk in cities, villages... the countryside... he needs to take vacation... he needs to travel...  in short he needs to LIVE.Not that wizards can't get paranoid with safety, BUT, the still need to live... otherwise all their power is for nothing.Now such a creature cannot ALWAYS sleep in Rope Tricks...cause it's nice to have morning sun wake you up.He can't ALWAYS be protected by extra planar powerful beings...cause sometimes he needs to take a nice, quite stroll without attracting attention.Even as a Lich the Wizard has needs, goals and schedules, all of which are not bulletproof.I'm not saying it's easy, I'm simply saying it's possible.So who wins?Well it all depends on the story, the setup... the ideas and the choices one makes.So I can gladly enjoy a PVP thread for the fun of it... but when it goes down to "the one is sneaking up this way", "the other sleeps the other way".... it's kinda pointless.</blockquote>

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