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<blockquote data-quote="Abstruse" data-source="post: 5941562" data-attributes="member: 6669048">You understand that people aren't saying &quot;I want this out of the game and banished to the void!&quot; and are actually saying &quot;I don't want this in the core edition and would prefer if it were put in a sourcebook or PHB2&quot;, right?The game changes with each edition. There are people who thought that having races and classes separate ruined the game. Then that removing to-hit tables to use THAC0 (and removing assassins and monks for the record from the game) ruined it. Then that using ascending AC ruined it. Then that releasing a glorified errata as a &quot;new edition&quot;. Then powers (in an edition which also didn't have monks as a core class).If you're going to use the argument that &quot;D&amp;D has always been like this&quot;, then you're probably wrong because almost every aspect of the game has been different in each edition. The only things that pretty much have been constant are attributes, hit points, armor class, classes, and rolling funny-shaped dice. That's pretty much it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Abstruse, post: 5941562, member: 6669048"] You understand that people aren't saying "I want this out of the game and banished to the void!" and are actually saying "I don't want this in the core edition and would prefer if it were put in a sourcebook or PHB2", right? The game changes with each edition. There are people who thought that having races and classes separate ruined the game. Then that removing to-hit tables to use THAC0 (and removing assassins [I]and monks for the record[/I] from the game) ruined it. Then that using ascending AC ruined it. Then that releasing a glorified errata as a "new edition". Then powers ([I]in an edition which also didn't have monks as a core class[/I]). If you're going to use the argument that "D&D has always been like this", then you're probably wrong because almost every aspect of the game has been different in each edition. The only things that pretty much have been constant are attributes, hit points, armor class, classes, and rolling funny-shaped dice. That's pretty much it. [/QUOTE]

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