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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 6193881" data-attributes="member: 7635">To be fair, 2e had a couple monks:1.) The First was a kit in the Complete Priest's Handbook. You gained a +1 to hit/damage when using the unarmed combat table, and in return you could not wear armor and lost access to some priest spheres. You couldn't gimp your PC worse if you tried. (Actually, you could, the pacifist priest was in the same book)2.) Faiths &amp; Avatar (and later PO: Spells &amp; Magic) created a Monk class similar to the kit, but done right. It got benefits when fighting unarmed (using either martial arts system in 2e, PHBR or Combat &amp; Tactics) but it also got a bonus to AC when unarmored, a unique combination of spells, and a few special abilities (free movement, mind blank, and all proficiencies). 3.) Scarlet Brotherhood (the Greyhawk supplement) brought back the 1e/3e style monk for 2e. It literally reads like a 2e version of those classes, including unarmed damage (not tied to a martial arts system), improved movement, unarmored AC, and a special ability nearly every level. So 2e ran the gamut from unarmed spellcaster-priest to full-on chop-socky martial artist. Interestingly, each was a priest subclass (even the third one), using the priest Thac0, d8 HD, and cleric saves and XP chart.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 6193881, member: 7635"] To be fair, 2e had a couple monks: 1.) The First was a kit in the Complete Priest's Handbook. You gained a +1 to hit/damage when using the unarmed combat table, and in return you could not wear armor and lost access to some priest spheres. You couldn't gimp your PC worse if you tried. (Actually, you could, the pacifist priest was in the same book) 2.) Faiths & Avatar (and later PO: Spells & Magic) created a Monk class similar to the kit, but done right. It got benefits when fighting unarmed (using either martial arts system in 2e, PHBR or Combat & Tactics) but it also got a bonus to AC when unarmored, a unique combination of spells, and a few special abilities (free movement, mind blank, and all proficiencies). 3.) Scarlet Brotherhood (the Greyhawk supplement) brought back the 1e/3e style monk for 2e. It literally reads like a 2e version of those classes, including unarmed damage (not tied to a martial arts system), improved movement, unarmored AC, and a special ability nearly every level. So 2e ran the gamut from unarmed spellcaster-priest to full-on chop-socky martial artist. Interestingly, each was a priest subclass (even the third one), using the priest Thac0, d8 HD, and cleric saves and XP chart. [/QUOTE]

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