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<blockquote data-quote="Salamandyr" data-source="post: 6196063" data-attributes="member: 40233">Well, you shouldn't be able to play a monk from first level.&nbsp; All that cool stuff Jet Li does isn't first level monk stuff, it's high level fighter stuff.**Just to note...again, that this is all largely academic.&nbsp; The monk's in 5e.&nbsp; It's not going away, and presuming it falls under the &quot;warrior&quot; category, it will be able to stand toe to toe with a fighter, in the fullness of a fighter's power (read: full armor and favored weapon) with nothing more than a bathrobe and a colored belt.&nbsp; Que sera sera.Interesting side note: You notice we never hear anybody talk about this in reverse?&nbsp; Europe, as one of the most bloodsoaked corners of a very bloody planet, has developed a variation of just about every kind of fighting art there is to be imagined.&nbsp; Over its history, so has China.&nbsp; But some Eastern cultures are very insular.&nbsp; As far as I can tell, Asia never saw anything analogous to the rapier, until the Portuguese showed up in Japan. When fighting one, the closest analogue to the rapier isn't a sword, it's the spear.&nbsp; If the Asian swordsman realizes that, he has a good chance of winning.&nbsp; But if he treats the rapier fighter the way he would another swordsman (say he assumes it works like a jian, or dao, or katana--yes, mixing cultures here), he's a dead man.Depending on the Asian culture you're emulating, European martial arts would be more unfamiliar to them, than Asian martial arts would be to Europeans.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Salamandyr, post: 6196063, member: 40233"] Well, you shouldn't be [I]able[/I] to play a monk from first level. All that cool stuff Jet Li does isn't first level monk stuff, it's high level fighter stuff.* *Just to note...again, that this is all largely academic. The monk's in 5e. It's not going away, and presuming it falls under the "warrior" category, it will be able to stand toe to toe with a fighter, in the fullness of a fighter's power (read: full armor and favored weapon) with nothing more than a bathrobe and a colored belt. Que sera sera. Interesting side note: You notice we never hear anybody talk about this in reverse? Europe, as one of the most bloodsoaked corners of a very bloody planet, has developed a variation of just about every kind of fighting art there is to be imagined. Over its history, so has China. But some Eastern cultures are very insular. As far as I can tell, Asia never saw anything analogous to the rapier, until the Portuguese showed up in Japan. When fighting one, the closest analogue to the rapier isn't a sword, it's the spear. If the Asian swordsman realizes that, he has a good chance of winning. But if he treats the rapier fighter the way he would another swordsman (say he assumes it works like a jian, or dao, or katana--yes, mixing cultures here), he's a dead man. Depending on the Asian culture you're emulating, European martial arts would be more unfamiliar to them, than Asian martial arts would be to Europeans. [/QUOTE]

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