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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 9826228" data-attributes="member: 7635">I don't think people were saying it was the norm, but I think its fair to say that is was more common in decades past and there was a fair amount of bad DM advice that helped support it far longer than it needed to be. Some DMs figured it out for themselves and improved. Some DMs who were bad would remain bad regardless of what was in the books. But the issue was that the rules helped shield bad/killer DMs for many years and more than a few bad DMs learned from other bad DMs and thought that WAS the norm. The community allowed such bad DMs to exist far longer than it should have, and there is still a strong strain of DMs who feel not only is it not bad, but it the correct way to play. But I take solace in the fact that much of the killer DM fuel is dying out. Many of the more recent DMGs (and other GMGs) have moved away from such antagonism. CR and other streaming shows show positive portrayals of DMing. Killer DMs are mocked, not celebrated. I feel the game is getting healthier when it comes to Player/DM relationships than it was in the 90s.</blockquote>