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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9826812" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>I'm not the first person to point it out. That is NOT what you are saying but refusing to admit that some of the responsibility to make a character fit the setting/campaign themes tone and lore falls upon the players. Take your own example and look what happens when the player feels adapting to the setting is the abhorrent result of a massive gm overstep </p><p></p><p></p><p>Bob wants to play a gimli clone drapedcin every dwarven stereotype so heavily it oozes dwarf. He has a backstory all planned involving reclaiming his clan's lost subterranean city from the monsters who overtook it </p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe Bob picks this. His gimli clone has a beard speaks with a bad Scottish accent favors an axe and did he mention his clan's lost city this session yet?... If not.... Heck... either Way he's going to remind everybody he can every chance he gets no matter how often you need to stop the game to remind him of the dragonoid home world and culture. Why wouldn't he when 100% of the burden for making it work falls in the GM to the point nobody will even discuss players even having <em>some</em> share of that responsibility?</p><p></p><p>Oh no Bob very specifically envisioned his dwarf from Middle Earth and sins to reclaim the halls of moria. That's kinda important because he's going to keep downshifting earth and Mars technologically and culturally to match middle earth. Don't forget how important the balor nazghul and sauron are on earth.... Don't worry though, Bob picking this will be sure to remind you and voice outrage that he tried to work with you by picking earther/martian instead of dwarf and you aren't even trying to accommodate him.</p><p></p><p>Did Bob mention how many of his clan died trying to retake moria from the balrig while his shirt bearded axe wielding dragonoid was drunk this session yet?</p><p></p><p>Options are irrelivant if the player completely dismissed them and refuses to adapt their concept beyond writing something else on the sheet in place of your hypothetical dwarf example where the sheet says race/species. The player needs to share the burden of making it work and it's almost scandalous to even admit that <em>might</em> be an important detail worthy of discussion </p><p></p><p>It's up to the player to adapt their original concept to what is available and ensure the result fits the setting being used for the game they agreed to join.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9826812, member: 93670"] I'm not the first person to point it out. That is NOT what you are saying but refusing to admit that some of the responsibility to make a character fit the setting/campaign themes tone and lore falls upon the players. Take your own example and look what happens when the player feels adapting to the setting is the abhorrent result of a massive gm overstep Bob wants to play a gimli clone drapedcin every dwarven stereotype so heavily it oozes dwarf. He has a backstory all planned involving reclaiming his clan's lost subterranean city from the monsters who overtook it Maybe Bob picks this. His gimli clone has a beard speaks with a bad Scottish accent favors an axe and did he mention his clan's lost city this session yet?... If not.... Heck... either Way he's going to remind everybody he can every chance he gets no matter how often you need to stop the game to remind him of the dragonoid home world and culture. Why wouldn't he when 100% of the burden for making it work falls in the GM to the point nobody will even discuss players even having [I]some[/I] share of that responsibility? Oh no Bob very specifically envisioned his dwarf from Middle Earth and sins to reclaim the halls of moria. That's kinda important because he's going to keep downshifting earth and Mars technologically and culturally to match middle earth. Don't forget how important the balor nazghul and sauron are on earth.... Don't worry though, Bob picking this will be sure to remind you and voice outrage that he tried to work with you by picking earther/martian instead of dwarf and you aren't even trying to accommodate him. Did Bob mention how many of his clan died trying to retake moria from the balrig while his shirt bearded axe wielding dragonoid was drunk this session yet? Options are irrelivant if the player completely dismissed them and refuses to adapt their concept beyond writing something else on the sheet in place of your hypothetical dwarf example where the sheet says race/species. The player needs to share the burden of making it work and it's almost scandalous to even admit that [I]might[/I] be an important detail worthy of discussion It's up to the player to adapt their original concept to what is available and ensure the result fits the setting being used for the game they agreed to join. [/QUOTE]
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