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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9826896" data-attributes="member: 93670">."Hey I'm running a $setting game" is all the GM needs to do in order to establish the limits of character and story options.  If the player is not familiar with that setting and agrees to join, the responsibility is on that player to adapt to the limitations the gm helps them work out rather than complaining how the gm didn't say no tortles or that elves are different in $setting while continuing to push for and outright play the original rejected concept.Who are these people?  Why are you not quoting them instead of shifting the goalposts around like this and inserting and endless chain of scenarios nobody is suggesting in order to keep talking about how the gm is responsible for doing this and that?Obviously but that's not what you were saying AND you are still unwilling to openly admit that the problem is Bob is asking "too much" because he refuses to share the burden for making his character story personality and so on fit the setting he agreed to play in beyond writing something other than dwarf in the race/species box.[URL unfurl="true"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens%27s_razor[/URL]Why are you not responding to those people instead of introducing and responding to things nobody is suggesting as if you are responding to those totally real posters?Yes there are and we don't need to invoke hitchens razor because some of them who have literally been posting to this discussion where you keep talking about steps the GM needs to take in making a PC concept work.  Here is one with a long history in the thread Perhaps you should take responsibility for your own preference and tell the gm of that hypothetical Arctic based campaign you yourself introduced that you aren't willing to play an Arctic based campaign rather than agree to play and proceed to show no willingness in making your character fit the setting?</blockquote>

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