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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 9827394" data-attributes="member: 63508"><p>The scope why didn't but it was still there.</p><p></p><p>The blogger lamented how the game shifted into high fantasy.</p><p></p><p>But as I and many other posters have said D&D has always been high magical fantasy. It typically eased its way there. However when it was going through the process of going from mundane to high fantasy it typically ran into major mechanical and gameplay issues.</p><p></p><p>He complained that Beast Master rangers form bonds with immortal spirits instead of wild animals. But wild animals stunk act combat and adventuring and we knew this for decades.</p><p></p><p>So as time went on the ranger class became more and more High fantastical.</p><p></p><p>So if a DM comes to 5th edition and bands everything that is "high fantasy", it would be easy for a player to come to the table with a half dozen ideas of characters that they will be willing to play and not find any at that table at allowed.</p><p></p><p>Because that's what it's really about</p><p></p><p>D&D was always Heroic Fantasy on the player side. The players are constantly interacting with high fantasy. You could always make the background stuff low fantasy but once you level up a couple of times that background stuff it stops mattering because the players are high fantasy and the monsters that challenge them are high fantasy.</p><p></p><p>Because it's one thing to say I'm bending one or two specific races.</p><p></p><p>But that's not the question that's really being asked nor the discussion that's deep into the mental web of what we're speaking about.</p><p></p><p>The question is really if I wanted to play a low Fantasy game the rules for D&D I have always been very magical and typically we use the ability to regain that magic limitation of using that magic. With that image was always there.</p><p></p><p>So how much is a DM allowed to ban before they get to a point where they should not be using D&D as the RPG of their choice in order to get that low fantasy setting?</p><p></p><p>Goodberry wrecks your exploration survival game today and it did so 10 years ago and it probably did so 20 years ago in certain circumstances.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 9827394, member: 63508"] The scope why didn't but it was still there. The blogger lamented how the game shifted into high fantasy. But as I and many other posters have said D&D has always been high magical fantasy. It typically eased its way there. However when it was going through the process of going from mundane to high fantasy it typically ran into major mechanical and gameplay issues. He complained that Beast Master rangers form bonds with immortal spirits instead of wild animals. But wild animals stunk act combat and adventuring and we knew this for decades. So as time went on the ranger class became more and more High fantastical. So if a DM comes to 5th edition and bands everything that is "high fantasy", it would be easy for a player to come to the table with a half dozen ideas of characters that they will be willing to play and not find any at that table at allowed. Because that's what it's really about D&D was always Heroic Fantasy on the player side. The players are constantly interacting with high fantasy. You could always make the background stuff low fantasy but once you level up a couple of times that background stuff it stops mattering because the players are high fantasy and the monsters that challenge them are high fantasy. Because it's one thing to say I'm bending one or two specific races. But that's not the question that's really being asked nor the discussion that's deep into the mental web of what we're speaking about. The question is really if I wanted to play a low Fantasy game the rules for D&D I have always been very magical and typically we use the ability to regain that magic limitation of using that magic. With that image was always there. So how much is a DM allowed to ban before they get to a point where they should not be using D&D as the RPG of their choice in order to get that low fantasy setting? Goodberry wrecks your exploration survival game today and it did so 10 years ago and it probably did so 20 years ago in certain circumstances. [/QUOTE]
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