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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9827737" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>Depends on the scope of that question.</p><p>The <em>original</em> artificer was a terrible gnomish force of chaos in frcs that nobody really liked, it should be forgotten and is probably the reason why there were so many god awful artificer UAs trying to channel it to varying degrees.</p><p></p><p>The first <em>popular</em> artificer was in 3.5 eberron campaign setting and it was pretty important to the setting for various reasons including its ability to act as a healer for living construct war forge who needed repair x damage spells along with wands of cure lx wounds... 5e broke a lot of the cool living construct interactions with spell & creature type simplifications.</p><p></p><p>The first printing a 5e artificer was in rising from the last war... But it was not the last time it was published... More on that below<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>[spoiler="ahem"]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]426027[/ATTACH]</p><p>[/spoiler]</p><p>Your kinda demonstrating my point⚝ by stretching so hard to justify banning !FR stuff no big deal. I've never once heard such claims about tashas content to the point where it's practically considered default must accept core rules. Not only that... Instead of giving us new artificer subclasses in TCOE wotc took people at their word when they said artificers were banned because they aren't in FR, wotc republished the original artificer subclasses alongside a blurb talking about artificers in FR Greyhawk & Mystara. At the time the eberron community's frustration over a mere reprint rather than new stuff was parried away with a comment about how it was done to make it more setting neutral & accessible.</p><p></p><p>Edit: I don't really care that it's regularly banned. The hollow excuse trying to justify it being repeated so often that wotc reprints content to feed it rather than printing new content does though.</p><p></p><p> ⚝ That point being that banning "a class" is no big deal. Banning stuff considered core to FR is a big deal,</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9827737, member: 93670"] Depends on the scope of that question. The [I]original[/I] artificer was a terrible gnomish force of chaos in frcs that nobody really liked, it should be forgotten and is probably the reason why there were so many god awful artificer UAs trying to channel it to varying degrees. The first [I]popular[/I] artificer was in 3.5 eberron campaign setting and it was pretty important to the setting for various reasons including its ability to act as a healer for living construct war forge who needed repair x damage spells along with wands of cure lx wounds... 5e broke a lot of the cool living construct interactions with spell & creature type simplifications. The first printing a 5e artificer was in rising from the last war... But it was not the last time it was published... More on that below:) [spoiler="ahem"] [ATTACH type="full" alt="1767047483446.png"]426027[/ATTACH] [/spoiler] Your kinda demonstrating my point⚝ by stretching so hard to justify banning !FR stuff no big deal. I've never once heard such claims about tashas content to the point where it's practically considered default must accept core rules. Not only that... Instead of giving us new artificer subclasses in TCOE wotc took people at their word when they said artificers were banned because they aren't in FR, wotc republished the original artificer subclasses alongside a blurb talking about artificers in FR Greyhawk & Mystara. At the time the eberron community's frustration over a mere reprint rather than new stuff was parried away with a comment about how it was done to make it more setting neutral & accessible. Edit: I don't really care that it's regularly banned. The hollow excuse trying to justify it being repeated so often that wotc reprints content to feed it rather than printing new content does though. ⚝ That point being that banning "a class" is no big deal. Banning stuff considered core to FR is a big deal, [/QUOTE]
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